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Cyberlux Corp New (PK)

Cyberlux Corp New (PK) (CYBL)

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Ambro24 Ambro24 21 hours ago
GVDM? Looks Meh to me :)
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Semperfiguy Semperfiguy 24 hours ago
You can search my post history if you want, but I am not here to pump or push anyone into any tickers.
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cashmagnet cashmagnet 1 day ago
You've purchased shares in another bulletin board stock that you consider a gem in the rough? My Inner Dare Devil always keeps an ear to the ground for companies like that...What's the ticker? Thx!
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Ambro24 Ambro24 2 days ago
Hey, I would trust OTC stocks about as much as a Pawnshop. If you find a diamond in the rough that is excellent. 90% of the OTC is just milking shareholders. I would prefer a CEO who under promises and over delievers. Of course, CYBL is on a whole different level with lack of communication. Huge upside here, huge downside....0. The red flags with CYBL are Numerous as is the potential...so who knows?
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Semperfiguy Semperfiguy 2 days ago
It is funny how "investors" in OTC stocks think. I am in another OTC stock that I have fair faith in based on extensive DD. The company doesn't have near the revs, profit, or potential seen here. That being said, it is a legit business in a great industry with good share structure, zero dilution (actually share reduction), and no debt or insider shareholders outside of the CEO. The issue everyone on the iHub board bitches about? The CEO doesn't communicate enough, aka pump. They want him to state forward looking statements and promote. Meanwhile the goals are already communicated and being worked on, but the traders become impatient as no major catalysts have materialized to date after about a year. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Ambro24 Ambro24 2 days ago
I hope you are both correct. I am not sure how MDS failing for over a decade means he did not allow pumpers to pump in a last ditch attemp. They were flailing. During the Covid Craze they took a shot at highly raising share price. Then, a year later, with the drones they fell arse backward into success. At that point the sins of the past caught up with them. Also, probably did not help that Brett Rosen was involved as anything would be looked at with a fine toothed comb. The civil war between Rosen and Sharp probably did not help matters and likely put the dogs on the scent. To be in CE for this long there was a problem. We can only speculate but my best guess, pumpers were paid in shares to pump this stock before a windfall profit from drones was a glint in the eye. Then a dirty lawyer, also paid in shares, accounted for the shares paid in an unscrupulous fashion. This can all be seen in the filings from 3 years ago compared to the filings now. The names in the filings match up to names of at least 3 known pumpers, maybe more. I hope all of the problems can be resolved ASAP but this has gone on for a long time and information from CYBL is limited.
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SuperLogisticsMan SuperLogisticsMan 2 days ago
Ambro, I was going to start a new book today, but your banter with Semperfiguy has entertained me this afternoon.

In essence, I mostly agree with him and much less with you.

In some ways, you are a bit of a hypocrite because you are not considering all the past history of Cyberlux, even though you stated to consider the past, present, and future.

I was an early investor in Cyberlux (over 15 years ago) when they were just a LED lighting play. I made money when the stock went over fifteen cents and then lost money when the stock was virtually worth nothing for many years.

Mark could have folded the company; he could have filed for bankruptcy. But he never did. He had to dilute to pay off company debt and then diluted more to attract investors. Now he and CYBL are in a great situation to capitalize with the new company strategy and government contracts.

Yes, mistakes were made with Cyberlux, and I have pointed that out many times to the company. But at this point, we need to focus on the present and future.

Lastly, let's assume that OTCM does not remove the CE. Mark is determined to move the company forward and to have the stock trade again. That is why they stated that financial audits are starting this quarter. So, if no OTCM trading, then they can uplist once they are SEC compliant. And I don't care if they have to do a reverse split to be on another exchange because the company's financials will support this.

By the way, I own a lot more shares than what you stated in your post. Presumably, I have a lot more to lose than you.

Good luck to you!

Respectfully,
SLM
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Ambro24 Ambro24 2 days ago
We probably won't agree on all this but I sincerely respect your input and take it into advisement. Lots of respect for Military (especially active duty). I have hopes for CYBL but they are not high. Best wishes. I also appreciate that you are willing to communicate in words and thoughts and not the normal 5 word gibberish that passes for thought on most boards.
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Semperfiguy Semperfiguy 2 days ago
Well, there you go, you admit being resentful so you are managing an investment via emotions which is 101 failure in investing. You are letting emotion cloud your ability to look objectively at all of the variables and potential here.

No, I do not think some flag officers can't have their ethics compromised. But, I also do not think that the cumulative reputations of several flag officers, and others with a lot to lose given their current roles, on the Cyberlux advisory board is something that strategic men with accomplished careers take lightly. We are not talking a one off here, but a group of such remarkable individuals. Their shares were issued post CE so where is their gain if this doesn't shed CE and PPS pull up? Take all other advisory board members out of the discussion and just look at LTG Ostrowski. Beyond his extremely impressive past resume he is currently the top executive at a major DC lobbying firm along with 5 other retired flag officers. These guys surround themselves with other smart and connected officers and you better bet they vet their business ventures off each other. So, the collective thought that went into signing on with Cyberlux is much deeper than you are giving credit to. The people who served under these leaders and are currently benefitting from their mentorship while serving are now in positions of purchasing influence. You seriously underestimate the loyalty and what such mottos as "Semper Fi" mean.

There is a very big picture here you are missing. I was sold on the company already, but Datron made it unquestionable for me. There was zero reason to make that purchase without the obvious growth potential resulting from the marriage being a long term strategic plan. If Mark wanted to milk the cow he could have just let the CE stay in place, not taken on any advisors, or hired expensive legal and accounting firms as he drained that cash into his pockets. Let's get real with what the intent for the future is here. You can claim you own shares, but your actions put me in the doubt camp. You have nothing to lose just sitting back to see how it plays out from here. On the flip side ranting on with negative speculation and emotion adds risk to that supposed investment by instilling doubt in those who have not done their DD. When you have a date with a hottie do you down a bottle of whiskey beforehand to increase your chances of spoiling the moment, or do you take the blue pill to maximize potential wins?
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Ambro24 Ambro24 2 days ago
One thing all of the people I have talked about have in common, none paid for their own shares. Pumpers, Boards members, management. I have bought more shares than any of them. I do not consider buying shares (maybe) at a fraction of market cost as buying shares (pumpers). Who know if they actually paid?
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Ambro24 Ambro24 2 days ago
Hope that you are correct. I have 3.9 Mil shares. I have no agenda. I am resentfull of the way this has been handled. I do not feel Company and or CEO has been transparent and honest in the last 3 years. If there had been more negative ideas expressed 2 years ago instead of pie in the sky optimism this may have been solved. You give way too much credit to people who probably did not earn it. You think Military Officers are immune to greed or can't be fooled? Think again. Especially true once out. Think Brett Velicovich was being real cool posting about his new corvette as we slipped into CE? Showed me everything I needed to see about him. How many millions of shares did he get?

The big evidence that this will come out of CE is that after 2 years CE is still in place. If things were unfixable it would be Dark and Defunt and contact with OTCM would be over. OTCM does appear to still be in contact with CYBL. We also can assume that the drone sales are real. We do not know if sales will continue (hopefully they do). We do not know the profit per unit after expenses. We do own Datron now that showed we legit have cash on hand. Hopefully it is conjuction (symbiotic) with drone sales and not an attempt to replace them if they are dwindling. You cannot wish your way into a stock SP rising or expect positive results because you burried your head in the sand.
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Semperfiguy Semperfiguy 2 days ago
Not 2y ago, within the past 12-16mn, while everything with the OTC was on the table. Stating it was "free money" clearly communicates that you have little understanding of this world. Reputation built over decades of service is not usually gambled on known scams or the like. There are plenty of opportunities for these Generals to attach their reputations to and utilize their connections to exploit for personal gain so why Cyberlux if they have no belief in the mission and leadership?

When I said that I do not care about the past it is coming from someone who does not see reality in the same view as yourself. You do you, but if you are a shareholder here I see no rational reason to spew negative thoughts into the mix. If you aren't a shareholder then the agenda is crystal clear. Most can't buy, only sell so I think I see through the smoke you are throwing out.
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Ambro24 Ambro24 2 days ago
Those same "consultants" (who thought they would get rich quick two years ago) had their share price drop for the last two years. They are playing with free money. I can't think of a more foolish statement than "I don't care about the past". I have seen that statement before and turns out bad. We should be concerned with the past, present and future. Past actions go a long way to show the integrity of those involved.
I hope to hell this works out, I just think the best way 2 years ago was for MDS and the whole board to resign, find an intermin CEO with some cred and move the business forward. If you don't agree with me that is great. 2 years is a long time and remember when PC was lost MDS said multiple times within weeks PC would be regained. He minimized the impact it would have. He also said it was just a simple miscommunication (which proved to be inaccurate) It would have gone a long way if CE letter had been diseminated to shareholders. It is OKAY to gamble here. Personally, I think odds are like 27% we get out of CE. That is pretty good for the amount of likely gain. Just do it with open eyes and know your are at a roulette table and not picking up money at the bank.
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gosox12 gosox12 3 days ago
Excellent points. Definitely why I'm sticking around until at least 12-24 to see what develops here. I'm optimistic about the CE removal, although the time frame is always uncertain.
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Semperfiguy Semperfiguy 3 days ago
Whatever you think happened in the past is irrelevant to me even if it happened how you claim. Why? Because I am concerned with the now and future. The consultants making these .mil deals happen are getting compensated in common shares just like we hold. If we get fucked so do those consultants and in the snap of a finger that retired brass can make sure Cyberlux and Mark never see another government contract. So, I think we have our insurance policy in place as far as common shareholders not getting screwed in any way. Also, why buy Datron if there wasn't true intent to make the company into more than a one trick pony with the Ukraine drone deal? That top notch radio transmission tech is going to be crucial to building drones that are resilient against comms attacks which is their Achilles heel. The connections and contracts also help open doors faster and make the company less dependent on distribution partners.
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awesomed007 awesomed007 3 days ago
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/20/europe/ukraine-drone-attacks-russia-intl/index.html Bi partisan $$ aid heading to Ukraine!!
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Ambro24 Ambro24 3 days ago
You are correct, I don't know that much about Cyberlux and the OTCM. That is because of the fact that Cyberlux specifically "chose" to not release the PC, CE, and or additional communications from OTCM. I did contact OTCM and they did confirm that a company can release all communication from OTCM to shareholder without fear of punishment from OTCM. I know only what I have learned from filing (names of the Pumpers involved with Operation Alpha, also dirty lawyers used to cover poor accounting) and what they themselves (Mostly Will-OS) told me in argument.
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Ambro24 Ambro24 3 days ago
I hope you are all correct, I own Millions of shares (3.9M), I would like nothing more than for this to go up after getting CE removed. However, I am 100% sure they gave discount (if not free) shares away to pumpers. Operation Alpha was before any drone sales to Ukraine were even an inkling of a possibility. At that time they had racing camera drones and did not appear to be highly profitable. Do you even know or remember what their businesses/catagories were? Remember solar farms? They pumped, it went up with nothing their to justify price. They also did Ilus and several other stocks and all followed same pattern. Price of course came back down. Then Ukraine War and drones occured (real success) and they had the dirt from the past on their hands. Loss of PC, and then CE. Multiple attorneys wrote letters at the beggning of CE and they meant nothing. Will OS, Tigress, Beastmode, dirty lawyer to cover it up, all recieved million of shares (most unlisted on filings until forced). Who knows if the pumpers really paid or not? It should have been a clean sweep of management and we would be clear 15 months ago.

Here is an attorney letter from 2022 for those who think this was the first
https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/CYBERLUX-CORPORATION-120788495/news/Cyberlux-CYBL-OTC-Attorney-Opinion-Letter-for-the-06-30-2022-Quarterly-Report-Final-08-15-2022-41331361/
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gosox12 gosox12 3 days ago
Much thanks for your helpful, informative posts.
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SuperLogisticsMan SuperLogisticsMan 3 days ago
In case you folks are not aware, the Q&A section on CYBL's website was updated very recently (I believe this week). It has some new information, and it all points to very positive things coming up for the company.
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SuperLogisticsMan SuperLogisticsMan 3 days ago
Ambro24,

While your opinion is appreciated and respected, you know nothing about what is going on with Cyberlux and OTCM.
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SuperLogisticsMan SuperLogisticsMan 3 days ago
Mark Schmidt is Cyberlux. I am sure there is a succession plan, but Mark will see this through. He is not a quitter.
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SuperLogisticsMan SuperLogisticsMan 3 days ago
When the attorney for CYBL asked for CE removal, that implies that the Form 211 was already cleared by FINRA. If that were not the case, no competent attorney would request CE removal in the AL to OTCM.

Remember: There are other attorneys involved, including Jennifer Clarke. She is highly competent and from a very reputable law firm in NYC.

In my opinion, in the case of Cyberlux, I believe OTCM will issue PC status and CE removal at the same time.
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SuperLogisticsMan SuperLogisticsMan 3 days ago
The Attorney Letter of April 4 was the first, public request to remove CE since it was put on by OTCM. I can afford to wait a few more weeks or even months until that happens.

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Semperfiguy Semperfiguy 3 days ago
You state they "fiddled" with no proof. It very well could have just been an error due to misunderstanding the guidelines as they didn't have proper filing guidance at the time. Intent matters in regards to stakeholder trust, but not to the OTC. Words matter so choose them with thought...unless you have an agenda.
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Ambro24 Ambro24 4 days ago
Finra lists a lot of possible reasons for potential violations. That doesnt help us narrow down exactly what the current issue or issues are. I think you know that. It has been 2 years. MDS should have resigned 2 years ago and he could be sitting on a beach drinking Pina Coladas by now. Instead we are floundering in CE for years. The problem is they are not innocent, they clearly fiddled, got caught. We do not know the extent of the fiddling. The problem I have is that the fiddling was before they had the contracts for the Drones. That means, the pumping and other nonsense (lawyer paid in shares) took place before this company was actually attractive. They pumped with nothing. The Ukraine War was on the distant horizon.
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mkus518 mkus518 4 days ago
Just google finra and form 211 and these results are there.
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gosox12 gosox12 5 days ago
Keep in mind this VERY POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT, noted by SLM in a post on 3/29/24: There's no reason for OTC to allow these financial filings if there wasn't a chance for them to remove the CE .


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Major, major step forward. OTCM allowing financial filings to be posted. Next Q4 on Monday. Then CE comes off.
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janga janga 5 days ago
So I would suppose that if the OTCM doesn’t get what they want we’ll not trade again: Remember how the OTCM made them do all those filings over first in the original SEC format not liking the results ordered them in the OTCM format; hope they got it
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janga janga 5 days ago
I believe the stated issue was that the CEO was involved with an early investor who shares was not reported to the SEC the original filing method
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Ambro24 Ambro24 5 days ago
Gosh, I hope your right that the attorney letter resolves the CE. I have seen no evidence that it takes 3-6 months, please post details of where that is in writing. I also unfortunately see nothing in the attorney letter that a) explains what caused CE b) therefore we have no idea if the issues have been addressed.

Additionally, we need to know now, as shareholders, (actually we should have known this 2 years ago) is if the CEO and Board resign will CE be cleared? If CE can't be cleared it may be the most beneficial option for all.
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mkus518 mkus518 5 days ago
It takes 3 to 6 months after a market maker files form 211 for a stock to begin trading again.
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midnighttoker midnighttoker 5 days ago
OTC market groups may review a Caveat Emptor designation upon request from the company and may determine, in its sole discretion, to remove the designation. The Caveat Emptor designation is typically not removed within the first 30 days of designation. To be eligible for a review, a company must meet the qualifications for Pink Current Information have a verified the information on its company profile on www.otcmarkets.com and demonstrate to OTC Market Groups that there is no longer a public interest concern. OTC Market Groups requires Caveat Emptor securities that are not eligible for proprietary broker quotations (unsolicited only) to have a form 211 cleared by FINRA in order to be eligible for a review (e.g. securities previously halted or trade suspended by a regulatory authority).
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janga janga 5 days ago
So was anyone smart enough to tell if the Attorney Letter would fully satisfy the OTCM request; because it it did we should be pinky right now imo: Just look at the Companies status with Congress
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LuLa LuLa 5 days ago
The Washington Post: Here are the U.S. congressional districts benefiting from Ukraine aid

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/04/18/ukraine-map-districts-weapons/


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gosox12 gosox12 5 days ago
Have never seen any data on that
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awesomed007 awesomed007 6 days ago
I wonder what the average wait time is?
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gosox12 gosox12 6 days ago
Timeline for Days Since Attorney's Letter to OTC(4/4/24) Asking for CE Removal:

13 days
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janga janga 6 days ago
Just let it flow like a butterfly and sting like a butterfly
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ipiros ipiros 6 days ago
Crazy how long it takes.
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helpx helpx 6 days ago
Still ce? Ho well
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awesomed007 awesomed007 7 days ago
That may explain the big dump on mornings and afternoon clawback of pps😉
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Semperfiguy Semperfiguy 1 week ago
Keep in mind everything they do with filing to OTC has to go through a TA. That means the TA is aware of and controls some timing aspects of when things happen. If anyone thinks the TA and MMs are not coordinating to load positions prior to big events that will impact PPS they are mistaken. This CE scenario is the perfect setup for them to load at rock bottom slowly without anyone taking notice!
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gosox12 gosox12 1 week ago
Guess you're right. Don't know why I keep deluding myself into thinking there may be a different answer. Just 16 months of endless frustration with a company with $105 million in documented contracts and a sub-penny price!!!
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Semperfiguy Semperfiguy 1 week ago
Nobody knows how or why OTC does what it does, not even the OTC most likely.
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SuperLogisticsMan SuperLogisticsMan 1 week ago
Oh Wise One! Do tell us why "never"? What extraordinary information do you possess that precludes CYBL from getting CE removal?
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SuperLogisticsMan SuperLogisticsMan 1 week ago
No WWIII. Only if Russia gets involved. But I would tell them that after Israel and USA get done with Iran, they can have Iran and its vast oil reserves. That should appease the Russians. Even Putin would take that deal.
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RobStolly RobStolly 1 week ago
https://tenor.com/view/degen-dojo-soon-degendojo-degendojonft-gif-26565238
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helpx helpx 1 week ago
Never
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gosox12 gosox12 1 week ago
Any guesses as to the time frame for the OTC to respond the attorney's request for CE removal on 4/4?
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