Mr Cooper Group Inc (COOP) Options

Hi Split. Yeah, I don’t know. Kind of lost faith in the world… you can’t even make a claim without getting attacked over the claim. Probably best for me to sign off and say see y’all later..

Never seen such soft skin.

Best to you!

JHD

With a ratio of of 68 % WMIH and 32% Nationstar it is no wonder there is infighting on this board. I bet I can name at least 4 people that were Fortress investors in Nationstar. lol

If we get the payout to escrows in the billions.....coming soon......yeah we will want the tax breaks.....lol

https://www.faireconomy.org/trickle_down_economics_four_reasons
giving tax breaks to the wealthy, and businesses does not work..... read
Lodas

Very good post!!!

many years go Arthur Laffler, then economic advisor to Regan coined the phrase "trickle down theory" in which tax breaks were given to the rich for a scheme called the "field of dreams"... basically, give tax incentives to the rich to build the economic structure, and the consumers would come and buy.... the problem was, it did not work, and the economy fell into recession soon afterwards.... this was in the 80's.....here is the problem: what good is an economy, if the consumers dont have money to spend?....so, the answer is , let them borrow money, and the economy will startup....this was shown after WW11 when the consumer only had "lay away" to purchase goods, before the credit cards came into use....borrowing, both by government, and the people have made the economy what it is today.... "warts and all".... when the spending drops, both, private, and governmental, a recession will follow...so, my premise still stands: the economy which will enfold in the next few years, and beyond will not sustain the valuations currently in the stock market.....Lodas

The economy should reward hard work, risk taking, and good ideas with execution Lodas  Rewarding all at the hand of borrowed money isn't sustainable. So happy we are moving back towards reality and away from the moronic fantasy thought!

IMO, the stock market is way overpriced in relation to the previous economy which was built up over many years by previous administrations to include consumers of all different financial levels....said another way:... the economy was meant to include everyone..in this new administration, the economy will favor the FEW...albeit, there was "pork spending" in the previous administrations, but the spending REACHED ALL INCOME LEVELS, and businesses, and investors in the stock market benefitted....now, and going forward, this new economy will look much different, and spending will be much different by consumers...with the National deficit at 36 trillions dollars now, the stock market was "geared" for this scenario....now, as government spending decreases, and consumer spending decreases, the OLD VALUATIONS in the stock market will reflect different P/E ratios going forward into the next 4 years....and, even if a new administration takes over in 4 years, the American financial landscape will be much changed forever... said another way: we wont go back to the past.... so, my point?... stock valuations today are much higher than what will occur in the next 4 years....said another way:... the previous American prosperity for all is over...., except for the rich...... be prepared financially for what is coming.......Lodas

I love Crosby Stills Nash & Young. I taped their concert this morning. Thanks.

I might have a few questions but let me think a bit.

JHD

You’re welcome. Thank you for receiving my message.

LATEST $COOP PPS targets==>DEUTSCHE BANK:💥$137💥, UBS:$135, Barclays:$130, Piper Sandler:$120, KBW:$115, JMP Securities:$115, Wedbush:$115, Compass Point:$110

Bbanbob, can you elaborate? If you don’t mind. I’m not a member of the Honeycomb Hideout. Lol

All of her recent posts have been ‘off topic’
Her last post related to WAMU was on March 04, 2025, 10:08 PM

CSNY Today at 09:24:22 AM

That is one great post! Thank you for your heartfelt and honest post which did not slam me for an opinion, which is my God given right .

May this materialize as you are surmising.

Respectfully,

JHD

Jhdf51, if I would have invested in Bitcoin back in July of 2009 @.39 cents what I invested in WAMU. I would be $4,427,600,000. Richer. As exaggerated as it may sound that is my Truth and I take accountability for my actions and Inactions for Procrastinating and not doing my own due diligence and Listening to other people like Jamie Dimon who Advised to stay away from Bitcoin. Now I’m thorough and read everything.
Talking about reading everything, out of the Bankruptcy, the Reorganized Debtors are Meticulously piecing the Company back together via Nationstar LLC.
Some interesting news I read, that Nationstar LLC, is servicing Freddie Mac’s loans, via “Rushmore Servicing.”
Nationstar LLC, is the Entity being used to put the Company Asset’s back together. They(Nationstar llc)has to pay themselves(WMI Inc.) for those assets and when they do, it is my opinion, that’s when we will be made whole.
Mr Cooper Group Inc. consists of 68% WMIH and 32% Nationstar.
Not to mention, it is my Opinion, that the 10 Million Preferred(XOME) may be Monetized in 2026 and/or 2027.


Go Equity Interest Holders! That’s US!
Go Coop! That’s Us Too!

Yeah...it will happen soon..

He won’t want to hear that. I have numbers going way back and with my large amount of P’s it would be what I said. Of course it is silly.. not going to happen imo…but the number I came up with is real.. just like the cows.

JHD

You have some issues.
And please, the quicker you ignore me the better.

JHD

Do you not know that one of the most outspoken believers to our recovery has stated that she estimates our recovery will be in excess of $3 trillion dollars?



I’d be getting a billion dollars …… your quote! You are so …. Full of it! Iggy land for you! Pitiful!

You are as full of s..t as your fake cows 🐄 you post! Off to Iggy land you go!! 😊😊 oops don’t forget to hug your little friend pick

Yes, I never thought I would see what I’m seeing but I understand your side now pick… when someone forms an opinion and makes it available and it doesn’t agree with someone else’s opinion, this is the level of hate levied on the person, and this is the way the world is now.

JHD

I feel sorry for you bill. Really do. But yes based on the p’s and some of the crazy dollar amounts per P that have been thrown around, go waaay back..it would be a billion. And it sounds like I am alot better off not knowing you.

JHD

This not a mean girls board....your team...my team...their team.....still at the kids table..

I’d be getting a billion dollars …… your quote! You are so …. Full of it! Iggy land for you! Pitiful!

Maybe but saying they stopped posting was not true.

Please… I’m not. Not on any team but the present Team which is COOP.

Would love money to come to escrow holders. I’d win huge and given the numbers some people are purporting I’d be getting a billion dollars, but that is extremely unlikely.

JHD

I had no idea that you are on team Lodas.

Yep. I think would help if people just didn’t copy reams of information and page after page it’s just redundant..

If you look at the ‘frequency’ of their posts, it’s unusually low.

"And I had the question why Alice also stopped posting."

imo, The intelligent people don't post unless they have something worthwhile to relay.
That is why there is so much 'clutter' on the board.
There are some who post multiple times a day about 'nothing coming back'.... Brain dead much?

Lodas has been here since the beginning about 16 years of documents (. Total pages:** 76,768 - **Estimated reading time:** ~1,600 hours 
- **In workdays (8h/day):** ~200 days) It is doable....maybe some take longer with the big words.......Cactus even has claimed he read everything and understands all....are you saying he is a liar.....

“ AZ Cowboy quit posting simply because he got tired of the stupidity displayed by ill informed message board posters..... Lodas”

You’re still here!

AZCowboy posted here on 3/21, and Bop/CSNY last posted on the other Board, 3/18.

Oh well been tried before and didn't work so, guess we all just live together here on this board

Bingo, you nailed him down using his own narrative, along with the math to prove it!

Years ago, as I remember, this board was all about the bankruptcy process and our possible recovery of funds via our escrow positions. Then later it transitioned to the WMIH and now the COOP board. This board has only gone through name changes, however, the underlying issues go all the way back to 2008 and this includes our escrows. In my opinion, there is certainly no harm in discussing both COOP and escrows on this board, they are certainly intermingled. The number of COOP shares we received , after signing releases, is directly related to the number of escrow shares we held.

Yep. Just confuses issues. Separate topics. Cleaner. Imo

JHD

No, I agree. I don’t think people should give up if they don’t wanna give up that’s a personal decision but to sit here and talk on and on and on and on ..it’s almost nutty at this point, but a separate forum would be great, then the believers can go there..

Respectfully,

JHD

Never have understood why it is a problem .........
Most or MANY here hold escrows as well as COOP so.

If that is true, then what do we have to show for 17 years of waiting? Seems kind of foolish, don’t you think, if we now just give up!

btw some statistics:
as you always mentioned that you had read all documents:

There are **19,192 documents**, and if each document has an average of **4 pages**, that results in:

📄 **19,192 × 4 = 76,768 pages**

Assuming an average reading speed of **1.25 minutes per page** (based on ~250–300 words per page and a reading speed of 200–250 words per minute), the total reading time would be:

⏱️ **76,768 pages × 1.25 minutes = 95,960 minutes**
= **1,599 hours**
= **approximately 200 full 8-hour workdays**

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### Summary:

- **Total pages:** 76,768
- **Estimated reading time:** ~1,600 hours
- **In workdays (8h/day):** ~200 days

Since I now have to assume that you old geezer can’t read that fast, we’re probably looking at more like **300 straight days**, 8 hours a day, **without breaks**.

My takeaway? You're a liar

Thank you.

JHD

AZ stopped posting hereIn my opinion, a step in the right direction!

Ok. It would smooth things out nicely if they would allow it.

JHD

JHD
I believe we tried yrs ago to set up a ESCROW board but they lumped it into this board

You should also accept other opinions.
jhdf51 said it without any struggling voice.
Simply accept it.
And I had the question why Alice also stopped posting. What is the reason ? Isn't it allowed to ask such a question ? @xoom ?

equity values in the former WAMU/WMI have been cancelled and extinguished, and all rights to the estate of WMI, (now WMIH) belong to the reorganized Debtor.... its in the official filings..... You are not a shareholder anymore in the former companies.... so why are you here , and obviously NOT READ ANY DOCUMENTS?????????......Lodas

Lodas, it’s ok . Continue to play your options.