Wells Fargo CEO Is Grilled Again -- Live Blog
September 29 2016 - 11:14AM
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By WSJ STAFF
Wells Fargo & Co. Chief Executive John Stumpf took quite a
beating when he appeared last week before a Senate committee. Now,
it's time for Round 2: He goes before the House Financial Services
Committee to talk about his bank's allegedly "widespread illegal"
sales practices Thursday.
We're chronciling the hearing as it unfolds, offering a
blow-by-blow account and some real-time analysis of the
proceedings.
10:39: Question on separating chairman and CEO roles
Mr. Stumpf is asked about whether Wells should separate the
chairman and CEO roles. He holds both positions.
"I believe we have the right structure," he says, but adds that
he serves "at the will of the board."
A follow-up question elicits the news that some members of the
board heard "high-level" reports of potential sales issues in 2011.
In 2013, Mr. Stumpf said he realized there was a real "issue" in
the Southwestern U.S.
And in 2014, "we started to provide more information to more
committees of the board."
10:36: Fed found flaws in Wells Fargo's incentive pay and sales
quotas in 2011
Here's the Federal Reserve press release announcing the 2011
consent order and $85 million fine that is getting so much
attention this morning.
Some of the problems alleged by the Fed do indeed sound
familiar:
"The order also addresses separate allegations that Wells Fargo
Financial sales personnel falsified information about borrowers'
incomes to make it appear that the borrowers qualified for loans
when they would not have qualified based on their actual
incomes.
These practices were allegedly fostered by Wells Fargo
Financial's incentive compensation and sales quota programs and the
lack of adequate controls to manage the risks resulting from these
programs."
10:33: Aware earlier than 2013
Chairman Hensarling and Ranking Member Maxine Waters both
suggested Mr. Stumpf was aware of issues in the bank's sales
business earlier than late 2013, the period in which he said he was
made aware of such issues. Ms. Waters pointed out Mr. Stumpf
instructed an update in an employee manual for the community
banking division, reminding employees they needed to obtain
customer's consent before opening an account.
10:30: Warnings from 2008?
Ms. Waters is on the clock. She says that there's evidence that
employees called the company's ethics hotline as early as 2008 to
report "fraud." She's hitting the same point that Mr. Stumpf and
top executives should have understood the scope of the problem
faster, and acted to stop it.
"Mistakes are going to happen," Mr. Stumpf says, and it wasn't
until 2013 that he became aware that the problem had been
"growing."
10:27: 'Someone needs to be held accountable'
Rep. Hensarling says that "no one seems to be held accountable"
for the sales scandal at the bank. This echoes what many other
lawmakers have said in the wake of the large clawback of Mr.
Stumpf's pay: that the move was a step in the right direction but
more needs to be done.
"Someone needs to be held accountable," he concludes.
10:24: Specifics about fired managers
Under questioning from Mr. Hensarling, Mr. Stumpf said that "10%
or more" of the 5,300 employees fired over five years were branch
managers, the first time the bank has given more specifics about
the number of managers fired. He added that the bank is doing a
full review of "other control functions" in the company. That could
include people working in risk, compliance or legal, for
example.
10:16: Hensarling: I wish I didn't have a mortgage with Wells
Fargo
In concluding his opening remarks, chairman Jeb Hensarling
delivered perhaps his harshest condemnation of the bank so far.
"Mr. Stumpf, I regrettably have a mortgage with your bank. I
wish I didn't," Mr. Hensarling said. "If I was in the position to
pay it off I would because you have broken my trust and you have
broken the trust of millions of others. And it will be a long, long
time to earn that back."
This raises the possibility that the fall out from Wells Fargo's
troubles could extend further than trouble with regulators and
lawmakers to include customer exits. Yesterday, California's
Treasurer said the state was suspending some of the business it
does with the San Francisco based bank.
10:16: Stumpf is sworn in
Stumpf has been sworn in. He will read a version of his written
remarks. He starts by repeating that he is "deeply sorry" and
"fully accountable" for the sales practices. "We should have done
more sooner," he says.
He appears to be wearing a different, darker brace on his right
hand than the bandage he worse last week. The bank said he hurt his
hand playing with his grandchildren.
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