jimr1717
1 day ago
I feel it's worth repeating..... you've been saying the same nonsense for 12 years... saying this when the stock was at .008... Called it a SCAM at that time, yet didn't sell all out at .35... after it hit .35, just continued the daily whimpering.... 2 years later, didn't sell all out at .45.
honestly, what normal person does this... You could have been all out with 1000% to 3000% gains... instead just hung out and continued with the daily crying...
When called out on it, you must have felt embarrassed, b/c it just sounds so idiotic. You attempt to change history and say you weren't around during that time, yet I've posted proof that you were posting during that time...
Who's lying?
Not a basher though... I love that
nyt
1 day ago
To be honest, SF, I'm not sure where you got the "billions and billions of ongoing infringements the emu has talked about"... I'm fully aware of the billions and billions of dollars in damages alone, that they have not only spoken of but they gave specific damages amounts in line with that twice now. I don't remember the year, but their 1st published damages was put out when they sued the 1st handful of company's. It was 4 or 5 companies I think and using that 1st metric/formula, I believe it came to approx $12 bil in damages sued for. Around that time, I think prior, they had named approx 60 companies as infringing. Quick basic math is easily many billions and billion, in the company's own words. Years later however, they decided to revamp the metrics used for figuring damages. That was around 2017 or 18. I recently posted those figures direct from Vplm published PRs. In that revision, again around 4 or 5 company's were used and this time it came to roughly $102 bil. Multiply that against the 60 or so companies and I know there exists more than 60 sizable voip service providers, of which Vplm stated that ALL voip service providers were automatically infringers......and you can see why some time ago I attributed the company's alleged value just in damages, to be upwards of a trillion bucks... It was very realistic using vplm's own published numbers and if you consider that those numbers were from 6 or 7 years ago, and consider all the inflation since, those numbers would be even higher. If you sliced it by 90%, it would still be billions and billions. The irony is Carl Sagan never said that, BUT VPLM DID!
Now, if you consider all the alleged infringers and the number of phones they sell with allegedly infringing abilities and crunch the numbers, not hard to see how that would add up to billions and billions of ongoing infringements, but I never heard Vplm put it in those terms. If they did, when, where? It goes without saying anyway, as shown above. It's all a bunch of silliness anyway. It's like how you could be dying of thirst and be drawn to a desert mirage showing a pool of water. It's all good til you get there...
As to your pharma analogy, it could very well be far more than just an analogy... Lord Emu of eGipped has stated many times that he founded or confounded a cancer research company in Germany years ago, still in operation according to him. He has given the name of the company which escapes me at the moment, but when he 1st noted it, I did a very extensive search for anything about this biomedical research company. I really searched hard, hi and lo for it, even specific Germany only searches. I could never find a single word naming or about this alleged company. What if someone had important info for them or wanted to make a donation. It does not appear to exist, then or now. In my research, I did find an American cancer research company of THE EXACT SAME NAME but they have no affiliation with the emu. I have asked for anyone who has any info regarding the mere existence of this company to let me know. Crickets... I just remembered the name.. It's Thorne biomedical. So happens that Thorne is a very famous name in American cancer research. So that's just one more thing to add to the list of emu failures, fantasies and schemes. The list is real, but some as yet unproven and significantly long.
The name should be changed to VPLMW aka voip pal monkey wrenches.
VVVVVV
2 days ago
Butter, EXCELLENT POST!!!
Totally agree the PPS is being held down. Probably not intentionally but, collateral damage nonetheless. aka, lack of potential damages and patent (s) value.
But, I agree things might just change after pretrials. I believe VPLM knows they have to get the PPS up. I heard any potential buyer will use the current PPS as leverage in their negotiations.
Which doesn’t make sense. The value of the patents determines the value of any acquisition. Not the current PPS determines value of the patents (infringement).
By now, if some can’t comprehend the importance of the court filings and material information to make decisions on their investment, I don’t know when they will. We’re wasting our time. I know I’m tired of schooling some.
IMHO
nyt
2 days ago
I truly wonder if you know how many times that, almost verbatim, has been said here in the last 13 yrs. I'm serious. I don't mean that rhetorically, I mean it as literally as can be. The answer, truthfully, is many many times and I'd be very surprised if anyone denied that. It doesn't necessarily mean or prove your wrong, it just illustrates a very human trait. We were told 12 or 13 yrs ago that a sale was imminent and that the company was immediately folding the tech into their own so called Voip services platform and that up to $200 million per year in royalties was about to come forth and so on and so forth, for yrs in the lying, unabashed PRs. That was 13 yrs ago and continued on to 1 degree or another until the present, incl your comment. It's sooo so meaningless... And soooooo worn out. Of course it's ok for the company or the super longs to keep berating it but so not ok for those of us who no longer subscribe to that belief. That is my definition of unfair and unbalanced. I am very fair and balanced. Nothing would be better than for me to be dead wrong, as I would once again make some big bank, for me. 27 yrs of a dud, in many ways, plus a past big time loser like lord emu, plus never any interest aside from digi-phony-ca, Vplm and the few on this board, for something that would literally turn the communications world upside out and inside down, and no sales, no licenses, no settlements, no partnerships and barely over a penny pps, IS ENOUGH FOR ANY REASONABLE PERSON TO POO POO THIS COMPANY AND THE PATENTS. So you see, my hard core determinations are derived indirectly by inference I guess you could say.............but so are atoms and atomic structure.
Putting down, vehemently and almost violently, those who see it same as I or similarly, is very ridiculous and waaay indicitive of the way society has devolved, at least in part.
nyt
2 days ago
How ironic that the patents are bogus and worthless. That will, in the end, be revealed. There is not a single case in human history where something valued by the seller at many billions of dollars (not just via conjecture or arbitrarily, but via a very coherent set of metrics which I recently posted and while out of date, should be much higher like everything else is with the various inflationary causes that we all know too well, but could actually, all things consideded beside the fact the patents are trash, might have dropped by 99%, lol) has sat in the middle of the road, untouched, unbought, unsettled, unlicensed, unknown to the rest of the world for............drumroll please........approx 13 years. That is common sense. That is critical thinking. That is so obvious that I know at least some of you know it... All the dots connect for the big, mean green, monster fiat share printing and selling machine/insiders personal ATM.
I DON'T LIKE IT EITHER BUT I BELIEVE IT. I already know I'll be using my unsold shares for wallpaper... I should have learned my lesson with TIV, a 50 year old fraud that all but a couple who knew better, refused to listen to. They were advised for years by a former insider and not just any insider, but one who knew intimately, exactly what was going on because he has been the chief of operations of an all important aspect of the company. And the ceo was beloved by many more, as I recall, than the emu worshippers here. Near 50 yrs company and on the market platform and on every msg board especially the classic 5 year long or longer raging bull board. That was the only board ever that could top the ihub Vplm board.
Anyways.....keep your helmets on.......more nasty monkey wrenches to be launched into vpreality
VVVVVV
2 days ago
I’m not a betting man on something I have zero control over. You seem like you’re too unstable for me to ever meet in public. Seems you’re way too sensitive, thin skinned and can’t take constructive criticism. I like to stay away from people like you. But, hey I know you’re sticking up for your buddy and you felt the need to attack me.
I don’t have to restate what you said in your previous posts, just go back and read them. Who attacked whom first?
$2.5 billion is a sellout. Estimated at $.50, estimated fully diluted. That would be under the value of just one case. Why would VPLM turnover their patent portfolio for a value under what one case is worth? Especially with the recent Huawei/Alice news. Anyone with business sense should understand this.
Most can figure out why that would be acceptable to some. I’ve stated that in numerous posts. It doesn’t take much to figure that one out.
Let me point something out. I’ll be kind of careful because I know how sensitive you appear to be. If VPLM settled pretrial with Verizon at even 30% of the value of the damages, AND ANNOUNCED THEM, the PPS would skyrocket more than your measly $.50. Any substantial settlement would validate VPLM’s patent (s). Now, add the upcoming T-Mobile trial, as well as the ‘606 Amazon. Not to mention the Asia patents. And you believe a $2.5 billion revaluation is good? Is this what you’re telling me and the other shareholders? Really?
Now, let’s get back to your risk, reward concern, if VPLM goes to trial. As it was asked to me, why would another company acquire VPLM if they would have to go through the same trouble, as VPLM has been experiencing? Don’t you think any potential buyer, would have the same concerns?
Shareholders and the market have no knowledge of the exact damages being sought and the potential value of VPLM’s parent portfolio. Hence, the PPS.
Huawei and Verizon just settled mid trial and no details (damages) were made public. This is a big concern I have that this’ll happen if VPLM settles with Verizon.
As I’ve stated, I’d love for an acquisition at a fair and reasonable price. Not with any sweetheart deal. Maybe back last May, that would be acceptable but, not after the ex parte and Alice 101 decisions. IMHO
I feel like I have to apologize to the other ihub readers but, from where I grew up, I stand up for myself and will respond back to anyone that disrespects and belittles me.
BTW, did you ever reach out to the shareholder that was looking for assistance on depositing shares?
Thanks for serving.
I wish you luck!
IMHO
DeerBalls
3 days ago
Had a long reply refuting your BS, however it wouldn't post! So, here I go with far less detail:
Where did I ever suggest/said to disregarding filings? WHERE????? I SAID THEY ARE OF LITTLE USE, IN MY MIND! I get far more out of Rich, excitement levels and such! PUBLIC FILINGS ARE AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE, WHERE IS THERE ANY ADVANTAGE THERE???????????
No longer 14 for Rich....Up/down, I'll never tell!
If the filings are SO important, why does Rich not have them all. Mensa claims she sends them to him, but I know that is BS.
The market does what it does. You didn't mention insider sales in the "surprise" comment, but you've made many negative comments on VPLM lately, including the insider sales. So, if so negative, why the surprise with only the 25% rise on the 50mm shares? Doesn't seem consistent?
Ray Leon and the other advisors are here for Emil to step down????????????? Yes, you claimed this, not long ago, and it is total BS!
I NEVER SUGGEST MY MARKET "SURPRISES" HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU CLAIM. My belief is the "surprise" was the amzn settlement, but who knows. THE MARKET DIDN'T RUN TO $.11 ON NOTHING....
The lack of news has been going on for years, yet you act as though it's something new. I HAVE COVERED THIS MANY TIMES>>>>>>IT IS LEWIS' DECISION AND THE CORRECT ONE. in my belief!
Folks not pleased with VPLM>>>>>>>VERY SIMPLE SOLUTION. Emil needs no help from the peanut gallery; I am certain of this!
lbird33
3 days ago
The wheels of justice grind exceedly slowly, but they do grind finely in the end.
Wow, the HYPOCRISY!!!! When Pro VPLMers bring up this exact same thing, it gets thrown back at us.
Remind us again the Negatives you have pointed out over the 12 years about the patents themselves? Oh, that's right, you've never said ONE thing about the patents...
Says it all, doesn't it....
Spyke37
3 days ago
Schooled??? That is funny, I feel as though I lose IQ points each time I read one of your posts. I surmise that most of the other posters wish you would try to play more nicely as well, while feeling just as mentally diminished as I by your ill tempered and misguided missives.
You have an uncanny knack for finding offense where none is intended (at least the first few times a person attempts a civil discussion with you) and then going on ill advised rants using straw men, obfuscation, and projection, while intentionally pretending to mis-understand relatively innocuous statements. It is exhausting.
To my fellow posters I feel a bit foolish about getting drawn into this ridiculous manufactured drama, and for any part I have played, I humbly apologize. I realize most of us come here to trade ideas, opinions, wisdom, and what little actual info we may have.
VVVVVV, I promise you I have not even tried to dish anything out to you, and I can wipe my balls with any pathetic insult you care to offer up and then make you eat it. However; for everyone’s sake on this board, why don’t we simply agree to get back to business. As for manning up, if you still really want to get into this more deeply, or settle this man to man, PM me and it will be arranged, but the board should be for VPLM business. Enough is enough. In my mind this is settled, it is
my sincere hope that you accept this olive branch for what it is. I have to believe that we both have better ways to spend our time.