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vein vein 19 seconds ago
Should be more buying opportunities this week . Thanks Iran
MrSmithLWLG MrSmithLWLG 3 hours ago
Just happens to run into an old friend that knows about Lightwave !!! Hahahahahaha

That was one of the best posts ever.
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Lewrock Lewrock 5 hours ago
Synopsis Photonic Solutions disagrees with Pumpkin. So does Jose Pozo and thousands of other industry insiders. I named two, Pumpkin named zero!

Pumpkin is a scam!
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RuudSaltis RuudSaltis 5 hours ago
Really scary! Friend… on the verge…. No info… just a few lines….

Just ran into a lot of friends. Sounds that this technological wonder is on the verge of sky rocketing.

Not funny because I told already a few decades ago.

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CarlinNM CarlinNM 6 hours ago
" Why Liquid Cooling Systems Threaten Data Center Security & Our Water Supply "
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Robbie1001 Robbie1001 7 hours ago
No too negative but let’s first see IF this takes off….🤞🤞🤞
Abig Abig 8 hours ago
People would take you a little more seriously if you elaborated on what you just posted.
-you didn't tell us exactly what your friend said.
-what bit of info did he give you that makes this on the verge of failure? They just showcased
their modulator at the OFC showing the clear open eyes. Modulators are being set out to potential customers.
-You knew this two decades ago?!?!? Now that is just plain BS or should I say #scam!
When this takes off I will miss you a little bit, I find it humorous when you call it vaporware.
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spartex spartex 8 hours ago
Matty, for sure, 💯, and he's a Master Baiter and curmudgeon.

Soon when the key news comes, the Baiter will revise their scam story to fit their narrative! 🤣

🚀🛸 to da 🌛 Lightwave!
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mattymatt66 mattymatt66 8 hours ago
Pumpturd- Calling total BS you have any friends or were at the Masters. #scamartist
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tkg tkg 13 hours ago
Incredible, the US leads the world's closest competitor (Germany) by a factor of 10x...

Here's a look at data centers worldwide with 5,381 in the US, the most of any country.$MSFT $NVDA $GOOGL $AAPL $META $AMD $INTC $QCOM $IBM $ORCL— Beth Kindig (@Beth_Kindig) April 14, 2024
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The Great Pumpkin The Great Pumpkin 15 hours ago

Ran into an old friend.

Sounds like this science experiment is on the verge of failure,

Funny. I could have told you that 2 decades ago.

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Sonata Sonata 18 hours ago
10) BLAH
THOSE ARE THE FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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prototype_101 prototype_101 19 hours ago
LWLG Eliminates Power Hungry & Expensive Driver Chip!!!

Lebby quote came from the Wall Street Transcript Interview (TWST) with Dr. Lebby - August 17, 2023

TWST: So you’re looking at value pricing, where the part might be more expensive, but you’re providing more performance and using less power, and as a result it’s going to be less expensive.

Dr. Lebby: Also, you’re saving the customer architectural IC designs. You don’t need driver chips and they are really expensive, way more than what a device would cost. And so, you’re providing that advantage to network operators.

What Lebby told investors in that interview is that the cost of the device, ie the 4x200 PIC Modulator Array chip is LESS than the cost of the Driver(s) that it ELIMINATES!!! And folks, LWLG's technology is the ONLY Next-Gen technology that CAN ELIMINATE the Driver(s)!!!!

Also let's not forget that the Driver(s) is/are power hungry, I know when I asked Bard it responded that it accounted for 40% of the power usage on 8x100 800Gbs and perhaps that is/was high but regardless the Driver(s) is/are known as being a big power user in the Transceiver so if you can eliminate the Driver(s0 you are saving a lot of power!!

So what's that worth to the Transceiver companies? you guessed it.... A WHOLE LOT!!!
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prototype_101 prototype_101 19 hours ago
Investors now know that LWLG has its 200Gb/lane Polymer modulator Product ready for mass production at SEVERAL LARGE FOUNDRIES on 200mm Wafers, and as Lebby has already told investors "our technology fits really uniquely into Silicon Foundries and WE CAN SCALE INTO VOLUME QUITE EASILY AND EFFECTIVELY",

Knowing these FACTS I believe it is time to revisit what I learned from Bard about LWLG relationships with Foundries, which was subsequently scrubbed from the Databases Bard was able to access at that time!! Today I asked Bard this question

at one point you revealed the specific Foundries that were working with Lightwave Logic and what exactly they were working on in terms of specific PDK's, more recently when asked the same question you only responded with Foundries likely to be working with Lightwave Logic on PDK developments and cite NDA's saying that the specific information you gave me previously was not available due to the NDA's, why?

Bard/Gemini reply, Model Update: It's possible that the underlying data used to train my model was updated, and the information about specific foundries and PDKs is no longer included due to confidentiality agreements (NDAs). Large language models are constantly being updated and improved, and this can sometimes lead to changes in the information they have access to.

I believe that my original inquiry of Bard which I will repost here is SPOT ON so much so that the information was quickly scrubbed from the Databases Bard had access to at that time!! here,

Google's Bard_AI knows which Foundries have LWLG PDK's developed!!! here are a series of images I received back from an inquiry to Bard (Google's AI product) regarding the Foundries that LWLG is currently working with on PDK development for their Polymers, view all nine captures and learn the truth from the AI world!!










And for the record I asked Google's Bard to confirm for me that NLM ("the competition") is actually just a myth and they are know where near any sort of volume commercialization with ANY Foundries!!

NLM >>

Ok, so there you have it folks, the veil has been lifted!!!! LWLG is going to begin it's Mass Commercialization in the very Near-Term just as Lebby has told investors!!!

"It's REAL and it's HAPPENING!!!"

"When this rolls it's going to roll!!"
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prototype_101 prototype_101 20 hours ago
Foundries Volume Scaling Achieved!! Lebby said "BIG MILESTONE!!"

Lebby told investors in the Dec 4th 2023 letter "and I look forward to sharing exciting new milestones during the balance of this year and in the next year to come."

In the Benzinga interview Lebby shared a newly achieved BIG MILESTONE!!! That milestone is LWLG's ability to NOW be able to SCALE VOLUME PRODUCTION!!!!

Folks this is HUGE and it was obviously only achieved in either January or February of 2024 since the 4th Quarter 2023 Update letter did NOT say that the SCALING AT VOLUME milestone had been achieved yet!!!

In the Benzinga interview, listen to what Lebby told investors in terms of scaling LWLG modulators to HIGH VOLUME!!

"in terms of working with the Big Foundries we actually have modulators on 200mm wafers, 8" across, this is the Standard size that Foundries use, this is a BIG MILESTONE, this means we can scale our technology quickly and efficiently in volume"

let me repeat that!!! Lebby said this was a BIG MILESTONE!!!

quote found at about 1:49:00

Folks Shorts here have been lying and deceiving Longs here trying to get them to believe this was IMPOSSIBLE!! Well guess what, LWLG just accomplished it!!! DONE DEAL!!!

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Sonata Sonata 20 hours ago
1) $4.09
2) $4.09
3) $4.09
4) $4.09
5) $4.09
10) BLAH
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Killercliff Killercliff 23 hours ago
The sad part is he just posts what is passed on from his handlers.....He is NOT the author of any of the information he posts!!!
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MarcoPolo4 MarcoPolo4 1 day ago
Ted, you have outdid yourself with your laundry list of conspiracy theories. You do have a talent for taking a shred of information and enlarging it into drama.
Have you considered writing for the Epoch Times? They would love your style.

I don't think I or anyone else wants to try and respond to your Blitzkrieg BullSh*t.
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XenaLives XenaLives 1 day ago
I liked this part, and it also explains why uptake has been slow but sure....

If it works, you don't want to break it.

By leveraging the mature semiconductor ecosystem, silicon photonics has historically afforded unparalleled cost reduction and a deep level of integration, though due to fundamental physics limitations, silicon photonics are reaching the performance limit to reach the bandwidth and power requirements necessary in the modern era. This announcement demonstrates that a hybrid approach, leveraging the cost and integration benefits of silicon photonics along with the unparalleled bandwidth and low power advantages of Lightwave Logic’s proprietary EO polymers, lays a clear path for competitive performance and integration for current and future optical pluggable transceivers.
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Dufi Dufi 1 day ago
I’be there also 😁
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Robbie1001 Robbie1001 1 day ago
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Dufi Dufi 1 day ago
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Robbie1001 Robbie1001 1 day ago
Yess, next friday
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Dufi Dufi 1 day ago
Are you coming to Antwerp?
spartex spartex 1 day ago
Thanks! Been traveling and haven't followed the dates closely.

Big week coming up!
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prototype_101 prototype_101 1 day ago
Synopsys reposted another Lightwave Logic article this morning. Quite interesting that a $90B company has posted about them on more than 1 occasion this week.

Synopsis also reposted the article below this morning. Some of the language in the Global Foundries portion of the article seems to resonate with me.

Just going to put this here. Synopsis Foundy Spotlight: GF Fotonix

"Roadmap Solution (excerpt)

The GF Fotonix™ technology is targeted towards inter/intra-data center and photonic compute applications with future extensions planned for ancillary markets such as sensing and LiDAR. The base technology supports O-band based 100G solutions. Plans are in place to support 200G solutions. Future packaging feature enhancements, such as support for thru-silicon vias (TSV), tighter v-groove pitches, tighter pitch CuP and CuRxPads. The technology will also serve as a platform for the heterogeneous integration of novel materials in the future." (LWLG Polymers)

Synopsys has been at multiple LWLG hosted/attended conferences recently, one of the directors was at the San Francisco VIP conference Lebby hosted earlier in the year, they are definitely at the very least collaborating (GFS too)

Just a guess here/speculating:

GFS, Tower/intel, Nokia among a couple others were likely the earlier leads based on white papers. Google a lead based on their recent presentation(not sure if they were old or new) Nvidia based on a repost on LinkedIn I think they’re at least aware but haven’t seen much public connection. I’m sure there’s a few I’m not remembering but the rest I don’t remember any obvious connections. Smart photonics was another one I’ve heard of I think KC referenced them.

In the investor pres at least 5-6 of the logos they show have referenced us in one way or another via whitepapers, presentations, reposts or interview mentions. The rest are quietly looking into this I’m sure

One key piece I liked is he mentioned they are less interested in tech transfer deals, likely only doing those if the 3rd party wants to use it for an auxiliary use such as Lidar which is out of their main focus. Means more money for us long term, likely going a very similar route business wise as OLED, mostly licensing type of deals.
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prototype_101 prototype_101 1 day ago
Google just had a shoutout to (LWLG) EOP on a slide for hetero integration. LinkedIn post from APC.

This is the google slide! (middle picture is of EOP slot modulator)

Modulators with low driving voltage, high bandwidth, and low loss.

They are also showing the same wafer

And “organic Material” the same picture on page 15 from LWLG

I can’t believe my eyes!

It is happening…

with Cisco, Intel, Google, Ciena as LWLG Customers I wouldn't want to be stuck holding the Old Maid "Short" card when Lebby drops additional Licensing and Tech Transfer Agreements in 2023 and 2024!!

there are 22 Million++ Shorts holding that Old Maid card currently!!

TWST: Do you see your ideal customers like Cisco or whoever makes these particular modulation devices? Are they the ones who are going to buy?

Dr. Lebby: Yes, they will — a lot of these larger companies. The Ciscos of this world as well as the Intels and the Cienas, these types of players, Googles and others. A lot of these folks are actually vertically integrated. So they actually do a lot of the things themselves. And some of the parts they send out to foundries or to contract manufacturers.

Folks, these are pretty bold statements by Lebby, and Lebby is one of the top Luminaries of the photonics Industry, personally I would NOT want to bet against him!!!
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prototype_101 prototype_101 1 day ago
just listened to LD Micro, an incredible presentation!!

1) ETH Zurich has set independent 3rd party world record performance with LWLG Polymers running at 400Gbs per lane enabling 4 lane 1600gbs!!!

2) The Customer Funnel slide is updated and now showing greater than 20 Prospects 10 Leads, where in the ASM presentation it was only greater than 12 Prospects and 5 Leads, so that has DOUBLED since the ASM!!!!

3) Lebby showed the 200mm wafers and talked again how LWLG is commercial ready for mass commercialization of 800gbs

4) Lebby showed that Perk 6 is NOW ready for Licensing

5) Lebby expects much more Licensing activity in 2024 forward

6) Lebby again pounded the table on the "ease of Integration" and how you simply drop the LWLG technology into those little pluggable boxes!!

7) Lebby also said that the PULL has become so great at this point instead of being "pulled along" it feels more like we are being "dragged along"!!

I'll have to relisten because I know there is more too!!
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Nrdc92 Nrdc92 1 day ago
Whatever the reasons, I don’t think it can be denied that LWLG is struggling to gain commercial traction. That could be for any number of reasons wholly unrelated to the technology/qualities of perk and its many iterations.

I don’t know what the issues are. Only ML knows the answer.

I am, however, very concerned that LWLG does not have the staff necessary to make this a commercial reality. Engineers, ML, and JM is not the A Team. ML, sure, but we’re missing connected dedicated sales people with a firm grasp of the technology and a dedicated in-house communications/PR team. Lebby’s stretched too thin at the moment.
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tedpeele tedpeele 1 day ago
I do not see Dr. Lebby as utilizing obfuscation in order to purposely confuse and hide things.
Your viewpoint is comparable to KCC saying that he doesn't trust Mr Marcelli while in the same sentence repeating a super positive statement from him.

The signs of intentional obfuscation are numerous, as I showed in my list of 50 items.

The ONLY question is why?

1. Either they do that to keep investors buying up LPC shares so they can keep the doors open
2. They do that to keep the industry completely in the dark so they can surprise everyone.

The problem with #2 is it flies in the face of all of these presentations, articles, and papers that Dr Lebby utilizes as a way of spreading the message.

You are smart enough to know that if he REALLY wanted to spread the message he would answer the industry with irrefutable evidence, and not off-the-cuff statements about poling, or saying 'we got this'!

I NOTE TOO that you completely IGNORED the evidence I gave from ASM 2021 that DEMOLISHED your contention that 2024-2025 has been the big plan communicated by Dr Lebby all along. It is clear from 6-20 min into that presentation that Dr Lebby was giving the impression that MASSIVE commercialization should be expected by the end of 2021 or soon thereafter.

Serious investors aren’t lap dogs.

Here are a number of questions that intelligent longs just can't answer without twisting common sense into pretzels:

1. Why did the Dr Lebby lead investors to expect massive commercialization by year end 2021?

2. Why did the company include in their 10k 10 years in a row to expect commercialization by year end?

3. Why was Dr Lebby so wrong about multiple deals closing as soon as year end 2023?

4. Why would Dr Lebby NOT have known of reliability and scalability concerns by prospective customers as soon as discussions began (ie PRIOR TO the Dec 4 letter)?

5. Why doesn't Dr Lebby tell investors exactly what reliability or scalability is being required by customers, as well as how long it will take, if the truth is that the company has no doubt that they can demonstrate it?

6. Why didn't Dr Lebby tell investors in ASM 2021 that a PDK often takes 2 or 3 years instead of talking about "partnering for mass commercialization" and showing a slide with commercialization beginning in 2021?

7. Why doesn't Dr Lebby tell investors the actual reason(s) why no transceiver company has agreed to produce a demo for 800gpbs when THAT is what the industry is looking for?

8. Why did Dr Lebby say recently they would be showing their demo for the next 6 months? Why not 3 months? Or 12 months?

9. If they really have tested foundry produced modulators at 200gpbs per lane, why didn't he just say so in plain English?

10. Why didn't Dr Lebby ever mention ALD process needs earlier, or expain the delay they would bring to the process?

11. Why did they change wording from "we are implementing" to "we are planning to implement" 4 channel within one month of the 3rd qtr commentary - for
inclusion in the far more important annual shareholder letter?

12. Why does the industry continue to come up with new solutions years after the company says they have reached their limit?

13. Why has the company r&d for foundry work been so small if they are really gunning to change everything?

14. IF the recent news about 200gpb from Lightwave were really so great why has Synopsis post of it not generated a single comment? Synopsis is a photonics solutions company with over 10,000 employees.

15. Why didn't Dr Lebby say how consistent and good the yields are when he briefly mentioned their full poling results in the q&a at OFC?

16. Why has the company never directly announced a single major company partner?

17. Why did the company lead investors to believe they were "foundry ready" at ASM 2023 when not a single foundry had produced a 200mm wafer with their modulators on it yet, and apparently didn't for some 9 more months?

18. Why did they company REALLY refuse to discuss their annual goals at ASM 2023 in light of the above as well as the fact that they had not met the tech transfer license goal?

19. Why has the company never mentioned they have a commercial deal with Polariton?

20. Why doesn't the company allow a serious article by an analyst in order to drum up industry interest by giving them some sensible 3rd party validation?

21. Why hasn't Andy B still "updated his slide" after Dr Lebby suggested he could have done that 6 months ago?

22. Why is Thin film NB the talk of the town and nobody seems to talk about Perkamine?

23. Why is their only sales person working for 2 other companies if they really are ready for prime time sales?

24. Why is Marcelli saying Vanguard and Blackrock talking regularly with the company when they would have no incentive to do so?

25. Why does the 10k still say PDKs are in development at foundries and not indicate they now have any that are qualified and complete (ie both front and back end ready)?

26. Why has the stock done dramaticaliy worse than all comparable indexes that would include it?

27. Why did investors change from declaring that there is NO WAY the top 2 would each take $2.6m in cash bonuses if a deal wasn't right around the corner, to later saying they are ok with it when the company had still produced such little evidence of meaningful progress?

28. Why doesn't the company not tout world record performances on plasmonics and not using their own polymer modulators created in a foundry?

29. Why did the company say they had expanded into new warehouse space 8 months before they really did?

30. Why were shareholders light deer in the headlights when DIRECTORS ALL sold large share amounts in late 2021-early 2022 while shareholders were expecting "partnerships for mass commercialization" on any given day?

31. Why does the company keep their shareholders in the dark on the status of each of their 3 products, being extremely evasive about where foundry work stands and even how many foundries they are currently working with?

32. Why does the CEO spend all kinds of time traveling and staying in fine hotels instead of pounding the pavement to get those deals signed?

33. IF things are really going foward and so great, why are shareholders not seeing any sign whatsoever that anybody other than they are aware of it?
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KCCO7913 KCCO7913 1 day ago
The fine details always seem to be opaque.

I’ve never seen “standard” MZMs hit 200G per lane PAM4. I’ve seen PAM6 or 8 get there.

I’ve seen work come out of Peking University that seems to be bleeding edge for SiPh modulators. A non-standard MZ design at 67Ghz where they think they can improve to 80Ghz. They also proposed a slow-light design at >100Ghz but it was mostly theory and initial results indicated there wasn’t enough modulation depth to do PAM4, only OOK.

With the Marvell chatter…they mention 200G SiPh engine and the DSP is PAM4. Is it possible to use PAM6 modulation with a PAM4 DSP?
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DruidElf44 DruidElf44 1 day ago
They sold the module business, not the sipho part. Intel is still in the business of making PICs for transceivers.
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jeunke22 jeunke22 1 day ago
Intel has agreed to move its silicon photonics transceiver business to Jabil last year. I guess they put their design teams on new technology, I haven’t seen any competition with MZ modulators based on silicon photonics with more than 100 Gbps per lane ( 8x100, 16x100). So Marvell’s announcement remains intriguing.

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walterc walterc 1 day ago
presentations are on Friday and Saturday next week
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DruidElf44 DruidElf44 1 day ago
Excellent question, I would need to double check, but I believe this demo was "standard" MZM for pluggables, whereas the ring-assisted ones are targeted more towards CPO and other higher density use cases.
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DruidElf44 DruidElf44 1 day ago
Optimal for Intel is what meets the specs and can be volume manufactured on their own, proven 300mm sipho line.

It does seem though that this could be the end of the line for Si modulators.
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microchips microchips 1 day ago
Doable, but what is optimal?
KCCO7913 KCCO7913 1 day ago
Do you know if their live demo used the ring-assisted MZMs like the paper they presented?
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DruidElf44 DruidElf44 1 day ago
200Gbps per lane is doable in conventional silicon photonics. Intel had a live demo on the floor at OFC; Marvell likely managed to do it as well, although unlike Intel they do not have their own sipho fab. Their 800G coherent pluggable is also sipho based.
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spartex spartex 1 day ago
Hi Walter! How did Dr L's presentation to your gathering go last week? Looking forward to hearing about this week's Lightwave conference presentations! The drumbeat keeps building! 💥💪🚀
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x993231 x993231 1 day ago
I think they were both with AA?

Robbie1001 Robbie1001 1 day ago
So short count dropped about 2,5 million but price remains the same….
Unfortunately not 1 penny per 1K🥲
The pilot would be me, but not your ‘yahoo’ contact. KLM 737 , retiring next year, hopefully with some xtra couple of millions profit of Lwlg….
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vein vein 1 day ago
Could next week some need flow ?!!
x993231 x993231 1 day ago
Yes, it dropped. The reporting gets quite fuzzy. Thursday, I saw it pop 1 million shares to 21 million. It looked to me to be the shares surfacing for the Monday cut-off date that were played in the preceding days. Then overnight they disappeared. I think the reporting isn't exactly to be believed.

T+1 is about 6 weeks out, but while that may help, I don't see this solved with anything short of blockchain technology being implemented. It will be a battle to implement and probably only happen with a disaster of some sort.

I was out of the picture yesterday, but LWLG held up better than anything else I could see in my portfolio.

I saw someone who said they are a pilot. Are you one of 2 that I communicate with every couple of years on the Yahoo board? If not, what plane/airline? Perhaps I can hook you up with them. The yahoo email is I only check it every few months.

Someone asked about sales, I heard the Lightwave team 7 was at the last convention. I think that it is proly all they do to now adress the current "Friendly's" requests so they can close the next deal.

I'm looking forward to the ShareHolders meeting, Im not expecting any bomb shells there. if any are dropped, I'd say they will be before the SHM. But I think the lab tour will be interesting.

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redspinelpinktopaz redspinelpinktopaz 1 day ago
making everything smaller, too. Sure sounds like Lightwave.
tkg tkg 1 day ago
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MrSmithLWLG MrSmithLWLG 1 day ago
Ask Lebby at ASM
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Nrdc92 Nrdc92 2 days ago
Question: does anyone know or have a good guess as to who our commercial pitch team is at the moment? Obviously, ML. But who else comprises the team that is trying to create industry inroads? Also, who do we think is “negotiating” licensing terms?

ML can’t do it all, and JM is objectively underwhelming. I’m having some difficulty with understanding who’s doing what.
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jeunke22 jeunke22 2 days ago
Say that again. Looks complicated with 16 and 32 lanes. Nevertheless from where do they get their silicon photonics modulators to switch 200 Gbps per lane?
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