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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
Thanks for all of your insight and opinions. Obviously nobody knows anything about the iETH token.

Apple once again please make a public written statement regarding the token. Thanks.

Developers if you exist please say so. If you want to remain a satoshi or anonymous please say so as well.

My questions are very genuine.

1. Does ERC20 token stay viable on the blockchain as long as Ethereum exists? if so, imagine how valuable ERC20 tokens could be in 2-5 years not to mention 25 years.

2. What prevents a bank from adopting the ERC20 for transactions. If so iETH goes to the moon based on history of little selling how rare the token is.

3. What is up with the pending website iethereum.com?


i sincerely feel the first investor to buy 1 million tokens makes an absolute fortune. Keep in mind iETH did not do an ICO which is a good thing. Especially after what we saw with many fraudulent ICOs.

In my opinion iETH is very similar to bitcoin, in terms of structure and decentralized distribution. If BTC can go from 4 cents to 20,000$. I would think iETH can go from 4 cents to 5$ much more easily. Is anyone opposed to making 125x on investment. This is likely what can happen with iethereum token very soon in my humble opinion. The math all adds up. no surprised if it goes to 50 cents a token or higher in the next few months.

Please tell me why this will not happen. I am happy to consider other opinions. Thanks.




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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
iShield or iShieth? Apparently Apple donating 20 million masks and making iShield . Seems they may have donated 18 million iETH tokens during the airdrop as well. Maybe they could comment on that possibility. If so they were smarter than Libra to launch secretly.

I decided to buy 50,000 iethereum tokens today as I feel it is more than a possibility.


any company wanting to make PPE and also make an absolute fortune could easily utilize the ieth token to do so for inventory or donations to help in the fight against covid19.

easy 200x on the investment.




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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
still waiting on Apple corporation to comment on iethereum (iETH token) interesting.... silence continues

Also was recently told that a business is looking to incorporate the accounting capability of the token for supply chain and purchasing of inventory. That business looks to make 250x on their investment according to simply supply demand economics. 100k investment by that business in my sincere opinion makes 200x based on historical buying and selling chart.

Looks like there has also been some major ongoing accumulation the last few weeks according to blockchain data.

PLEASE POST OPINIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. ACTIONABLE INFORMATION REMAINS HARD TO FIND.

IF ANYONE KNOWS ABOUT ERC20 TOKENS AND IF THEY WILL STILL EXIST ON THE BLOCKCHAIN IN 30 YEARS PLEASE POST THAT OPINION AS WELL. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY EXIST INDEFINITELY AND THEREFORE NO BANKRUPTCY RISK WITH TOKENS.


please correct me if my understanding is wrong. trying to learn more from others is why i continue to post

THANKS.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
Ovanko,

The value with iETH is very clear and obvious and you remain very frustrated. From your first post you have claimed I have an alternative motive. I don't. I know there is value and little selling because if you look at the 2180+ addresses on the blockchain the vast majority of people holding in those addresses have not sold in over 18 months. So why are they not selling if it is not valuable as you say.

I have spoken to a few major holders and they are holding for at least the next 18 months.

Apple Corp still has not denied any affiliation and you must admit that is more than a little interesting.


Finally, I am aware of a scholarship foundation that just accepted a 80,000+ token donation. I do not know the exact number but the foundation has agreed to buy and hold another 200,000 tokens for the next 3 years. They also indicated they will likely buy more over those 3 years.

As I hope you know value comes from use and anyone willing to chose and use iETH token will add to value. The value is only limited by ones imagination. I also know based on the information and people I have spoken to. Probably only 5-8 million tokens may ever trade again. The vast majority of trades according to recent blockchain data are peer-to-peer bypassing exchanges altogether.

I am not affiliated with the token but see great value when I see it. Grow up please.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
500$ investment in iEthereum token (iETH)has 200x upside at least over the next 8-12 months, with almost no downside according to my math and blockchain analysis.

I don't see any selling for months according to blockchain data. significant buying at this point and holders make a mint it appears. in my opinion.


Please correct me if I am wrong but smart contracts remain on the ethereum blockchain and can't be changed or modified. Therefore iETH will still be around in 30 years correct? imagine how rare the 18,000,000 tokens will be in the next 20 years. vast majority of holders appear to be holding for over a year according to the recent blockchain data and lack of selling. I estimate less than 6 million tokens will ever trade again. Imaging the value on those tokens over the next 2 years not to mention 20 years.


This is my opinion. Once again please comment with your opinions.

Obviously a statement by Apple corp would help. Also an update from the developers would be helpful.


The first small business to incorporate this token into supply chain transactions alone likely makes 300x base on simple supply demand market economics. Once again this is my opinion and educated blockchain analysis. theoretically there is not limit to iETH. very similar structure to bitcoin when bitcoin was trading at 3 cents. 10$ iETH tokens is not unrealistic with the finite numbers of iETH tokens


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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
iethereum token
Just got off the phone after discussions on the following: (iETH) iethereum token

Looks like the foundation interested in incorporating iETH donations towards scholarship, held in the foundation for higher education. easily pushing iETH to over 3$ in my opinion.

ongoing discussions over the next week. Going to at least 2$ per token with or without you in my opinion.


200-500X returns on your investment happens frequently in this new unprecedented world of small start-up cryptocurrency. Foundation will be holding for at least 3 years.


Apple corp. please make a public statement regarding any affiliation you may have with the token.

Thanks.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
Waiting to hear back from the investor group regarding establishing foundation for COVID relief.

I have looked at the blockchain on iETH and it appears the upside as good as anything in the cryptocurrency world.

I am looking to buy 250,000 tokens as mentioned. It appears only about 4 million tokens or possibly much less in the trading float, the rest appear to be in holding wallets that are not selling. Therefore 5-7 investors each buy about 200,000 iethereum tokens or about 3k$ worth each and this token is off to the races and will easily run to 1$ or higher.

At the end of the day it is buyers vs sellers, demand vs supply that determines token price. Any wise small business at this stage could easily make a million bucks by diverting supply chain and inventory $ through the token prior to point of sale accounting.

Just my educated opinion of course, but I am confident I am correct.

Let's all make some money and do some good in the world. That combination is noble.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
according to my analysis and limited finite global supply of iETH tokens of 18,000,000. iETH token is likely worth at least 10$ per token when looking at 2 years forward with the following use case. Vitalik or coinbase each buys 1 million each and the sky is the limit on token value. website or any promotion of token at all at this point and it flys upward in price. To my knowledge, there has not been any adoption from any major companies yet. When this happens the price will fly. It appears that many of the original addresses from day 1 continue to hold. Why is that. What do they know that we don't know?


major investors discussing purchasing upwards of millions tokens at this point and establishing LLC or foundation to do tremendous good in the world.

Looks like with a large purchase such as that the token price would fly to at least 4$-7$ per token or 200-500x on all new investments at this stage.


I will be donating 500,000 tokens to the cause and will be purchasing an additional 250,000 tokens and holding those for the next 3 years.

please join the cause to 10$ iETH token. Remember when someone told you bitcoin would be worth 10$ some day. This is easily gonna happen with iETH in my opinion.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago

iETH -- N95 fund

on the phone today discussing with major investors looking to establish a fund leveraging the iETH token to get N95 protection to our health care workers.

It seems that investing in iETH would leverage the donations upwards of 1000x.

I sincerely feel cryptocurrency such as iETH is a game changer. It is bitcoin at 4 cents and only limited by community support.

I will be donating 500,000 iethereum (iETH) tokens to the fund



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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
I will be placing 500K tokens into the fund to help establish the foundation.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
In the process of speaking to a few wealthy philanthropists regarding establishing an iETH (iethereum token) fund to help those most in need curing the COVID19 crisis.

COVIDiethereum fund will be geared to help as much as possible. would expect donations to be leveraged 1000x or more as these philanthropists donate by purchasing tokens. I am continuing to pursue discussions regarding how this may be incorporated.

Apple corp could literally change the world by purchasing tokens as well.


All foundation public addresses will be posted within the foundation and professional accounting measures to allocate donations to provide the most common good.


If you are aware of any willing to help with this idea please respond with ideas. Sincerely.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
Apparently nobody has any opinions on iETH token,

Please let me know if you find out anything about business plan or the developers intentions.

If I owned a small business, I would incorporate the token into transactions and inventory management. My math tells me would be at least 100x profits on every dollar I invested into the token.

Regardless of what is going on with the token it appears there are over 2000 investors and none of which appear to be selling. That alone tells me most of what I need to know.

The next update will be interesting. Looking forward to see what happens to the developing iethereum.com website as well.

developers if you exist, you are long over due for an update on the business plan. Thanks.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago

buying a million iETH (iethereum) tokens makes a million $ according to a few simple calculations.

please prove me wrong. poised and ready to say I told you so.




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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago

OK, Okvango, I have asked you a basic question regarding iETH (iethereum token) and you have not responded. So it seems you continue to be misleading, while I have been genuine in seeking legitimate questions.


It appears to me, that iETH is going to a dollar, based on the math and blockchain analysis.


Looks like daily buy volumes of 20K$ and it goes way up very quickly. Those investors that are holding which appears to be 2000 or more are not selling.


Those are facts. Please let me know if you have any facts. so far you have not offered any. Thanks.


If my theory is correct based on current supply and demand iETH is only going up way over a dollar per token from here. Likely for the next 2-5 years in my opinion. my original investment thesis has only strengthen over time.

I am still waiting for the developers and Apple to make an official statement and update on the token. Obviously that would help.

Anyone wishing to comment on facts or ideas. please post. thanks.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago

Okavango,

When you contacted Apple as you said, you Okavango, indicated that Apple investor relations did not know about iETH or know whether Apple was involved. You said they referred you to someone else? Who did they refer you to?

I am speculating. That is a part of all investments. Speculators are people who ask questions and seek answers. They formulate possibilities as it pertains to investments. Speculators are a good thing in all efficient markets.

Once again, to be clear, I will repeat myself because you do not seem to understand, that I am asking questions in the hope that anyone that has any actionable information on the iethereum token would comment. I am sincerely frustrated by the lack of updates from the developers and websites etc.

I have been genuine and sincere from day one and have not desire to promote anything. I am not affiliated in the least with iETH (iethereum token)

I am sincerely intrigued that Apple has not made a public, official, written statement, specifically addressing the token and the logo.

My theory and opinion, is Apple possibly could be launching the token secretly and would make sense if they wanted the token to be decentralized. It is the best foundation for a token to be as decentralized as possible.

I think you would agree that it is curious that Apple does not have any opinions thus far. At least any public opinions regarding the token. That is all. Plain and simple.

I would appreciate if you would stick to the facts and not imply that I know more about the token. I do not. I do think the sky is the limit with the token. The branding alone is very valuable. I don't know enough about smart contracts to say but it seems it will be around for many, many years.

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price_and_volume price_and_volume 4 years ago
How do you know this? You've contacted AAPL?
iEthereum still has not received comment from Apple corp I did, but you refuse to acknowledge ANY information other than your own iHUB pump of this nothing alt-coin, and you have repeatedly called me a liar.

Why not perform your OWN DD?

CONTACT AAPL YOURSELF. If you DON'T, there's ONLY 1 REASON WHY: You know that they have nothing to do with this, and publishing THAT INFORMATIONAL FACT will destroy your intended purpose here of obfuscating the truth in order to generate interest in YOUR COIN from naive 'investors.'

CONTACT AAPL directly. Insist on speaking with whomever you believe can answer your questions.

Nevermind... you been told to do this yourself dozens of times, yet you REFUSE for obvious reasons.

GLTU.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago

Simple Okavango,


iEthereum still has not received comment from Apple corp. Possibly because Apple corp is the satoshi behind the smart contract code?


Regardless, smart contracts can be layered. Therefore, one new contract can easily incorporate iETH as an ERC20 transaction on the layered contract. That alone would send the demand through the roof. Even a few online games accepting the token would send it through the roof.

In my humble opinion iETH (iethereum token) has the best branding value in the entire crypto world.

Sincerely feel the token current value is easily worth 3$ per token all things considered.

Not to mention it is a function of ETH and BTC so if those currencies run up iETH should follow in step.

I will not be surprised if iETH hits 5$ to 7$ per token in the next year or less in my opinion. Certainly very possible.

iETH will be on the ethereum blockchain for 20+ years. therefore coinbase could easily buy and hold
3 million tokens. A community or local economy or merchants could easily start accepting it as payment as it sends and confirms in about 20 seconds.

I would like to know when developers will update the websites: iethereum.com and iethereum.trade.
this would certainly help. Maybe Apple corp could finally make an official statement as well.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago


still waiting on Apple and developers to comment regarding iETH (iethereum) token??

Is this really too much to ask?

news? info? anyone?
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
Okavango,


I am not seeking anything other than trying to understand the crypto marketplace and various value propositions and comparisons between tokens etc. Believe it or not I have spent many, many hours reading about these things. Currency is currency when a community decides to transact with it. The supply is limited and therefore it will have no competition with the dollar on a global scale but will appreciate much much much more quickly than the dollar will ever appreciate. In fact, the dollar depreciates by 3% per year on avg. I believe iETH goes up by at least 100% per year moving forward compounded x at least 4 years.

Once again I am asking 2 basic questions.

1. if it is not Apple why has Apple not made a public statement.

[b] 2. if ERC20 tokens are around "forever" by definition. then iETH, iethereum token is only going up over time due to scarcity and use function. Supply will only decrease and use cases will only go up over time.


Once again, all things being equal my logic says iETH will be worth at least 1$ per token relatively soon.

if it is around "forever" by definition as it is software code on the ethereum blockchain. it is immutable, which means can't be censored or changed. That Apple and ethereum logo branding is worth at least 75 million longer term. that branding alone puts the long term value of the token well over 4$ per token.


once again this is my opinion. Please tell why this is flawed.
If I was a bank I would potentially incorporate the iETH token into cross boarder payments for my top customers. That alone pushes iETH price to the moon. Only one small use case. Look at signature bank as they did the same thing with ERC20 token of their choice.

simply the upside potential value is limited only by creativity and is therefore impossible to know. I obviously am more optimistic about this very real possibility than you are. If my math is correct a wealthy investor or group of investors buying around 100k worth of the token could easily see 100x return on that investment. Unless the math I have done is flawed. regardless about 14 million tokens are held in over 2000 addresses and they are not being sold. My question is simple. Why are those people holding and not selling. That alone is a very intriguing question. Even more intriguing is what will happen when the price goes to 50 cents a token which I believe could happen literally any day.

once again this is very possible and just an opinion.
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price_and_volume price_and_volume 4 years ago
"please tell me where my analysis is flawed"
selected as a transaction medium of choice AND using iethereum as their primary currency of business? Do you really need somebody to point out the "flaw" in this argument? Are you implying that "business transactions" will migrate from $USD & other local currencies, NOT TO OTHER CRYPTO like BTC or a tethered cryptcurrency, and NOT to any other MUCH MORE WIDELY USED and ACCEPTED crypto, but to YOUR crypto, iETH?
the supply appears to be super limited. If nobody wants or needs something, relative supply arguments are meaningless.

So IMO your "math and logic" are incredibly flawed. You alone believe your arguments in favor of iETH. Only the developers and those they've DUPED are even aware of iETH, despite your best efforts on iHUB and elsewhere. NOBODY CARES.

The best-case scenario for YOU, if you ACTUALLY BELIEVE YOURSELF, is to stay QUIET about iETH, so that price continues to stagnate as it has since release, and continue to buy-up all the inventory you possibly can while it's "cheap". Then when the rest of the world catches on, you'll be wealthy beyond imagination.

This isn't a reality show; there's no reason to hunt "fame" for being right on these boards or to convince others to buy what you're buying.

Just build wealth for yourself and your family.

GLTU!
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago

any new information on iETH or iethereum will be helpful.


I am sincerely confused however. So ERC20 smart contract tokens remain forever, right?

so my logic says it will go way up in value when somewhere in the world it is selected as a transaction medium of choice, correct? Isn't the whole point of many of these tokens to be transactional? Therefore no limit on token price with demand at this point? correct. Sincerely asking for opinions. we all know the supply appears to be super limited.

what prevents businesses or small communities from using iethereum as their primary currency of business? wouldn't that alone define the value?

My math and logic says even 10k in global daily volume on average and the price continues way upward? please tell me where my analysis is flawed ?

exists on the ethereum blockchain as long as ethereum is around correct?
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price_and_volume price_and_volume 4 years ago
When Lambo?




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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
iethereum flood gates are about to open according to the blockchain analysis


the developers are way overdue for a statement


the iethereum.com website appears to be launching soon. I have no affiliation with developers or the website. FACT, FACT, FACT. In spite of others suggesting that I have any affiliation. Those suggesting this are lying, lying, lying.

My opinion on this token has remained the same for over a year.

One small group, bank, or community utilizes this token as a means of currency, purchasing, or bank transactions and the sky is the limit on token price.

The supply demand curve is poised for at least 75% returns in the next few weeks. Also, it has been very frustrating as the incognito developers have not posted in over 8 months.

Finally, something appears to be brewing behind the scene as holders continue to HODL.

One positive update and it would not surprise me if the token goes to 3$ likely much higher very quickly.

Once again this is my educated opinion based on the blockchain analysis.

Still waiting for Apple to comment as well. Apple denouncing centralized currency does not denounce decentralized currency
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago


The reason Apple cares is because it it the most valuable logo in the history of the world, in terms of market cap.

Okavango, Apple cares. I find it very interesting that they have not made a public official statement of 2 sentences either disowning the token or admitting affiliation with the token. Imagine with Apples billion phones worldwide, if Apple decided to merge with the Apple pay platform. iETH market cap would rival bitcoin within days.

I also find it interesting, Jen Bailey VP of Apple pay, of Apple corp. said, crypo is interesting with long term potential

Tim Cook then denounces centralized forms of currency.

In my opinion, Cook will pivot 180 degrees, similar to Jamie Dimon, and embrace decentralized currency.


In my opinion, it makes perfect sense for Apple to slow launch a token via airdrop. iETH would be a perfect way to do so. It seems to me that the iETH token was made to look sketchy on purpose.

Regardless, the logic is simple. There is no reason that Apple has not denounced the token after 28 months, unless they are actually affiliated, in my opinion.

Holding 100,000 iETH tokens and buying at this bottom price is a phenomenal risk reward investment in my opinion. . no different then buying bitcoin at the same price in 2010 and with similar tokenomics and possible as much upside as bitcoin. If Apple announces, the token goes to 1000$ per token within the first hour and 4000$ per token within the first day.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
Thanks for all of the opinions. obviously nobody has any or knows anything about this very interesting token iEthereum.


does anyone have any opinion on the new website that seems to be launching soon:

iethereum.com


once again thank you for all your helpful dialogue.

Apple it would be nice when your logo is on a token to make a public and written official statement regarding the logo. Am I being unreasonable to ask? seriously. u are welcoming a lawsuit from you stock holders if you do not comment.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
my opinion remains the same.


about 3 million tokens according to the blockchain data remain in the trading float. My theory is sound in that the major holder that have been verified on the blockchain do not appear to be selling. In fact they appear to be accumulating more.

Therefore simple supply and demand says simply: The next investors to buy out half of the remaining float or 1.5 million tokens will make an absolute fortune. looks to be primed and very ready for a 200x investment return minimum.

200x seems unrealistic in any other marketplace. However, in the crypto world we have seen 20,000x so [bI sincerely feel in my humble opinion this will see 200x over the next few months.


Any investors interested in 100x + iETH is your investment. The blockchain analysis appears very clear.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
OKavango,


I have not lied to you and I already have told you that Apple investor relations does not know anything as you recently said.

You should not have claimed that you contacted Apple investor relations months ago or that they said they were not affiliated. That was not true. You also have a strong opinion which I welcome. Please keep this discussion to known facts and not conjecture. Thanks.

As far as my evidence, it is not only for me, it is all on the blockchain. I have associates that have other associates that have verified all the data on the blockchain and the major holders that I am referring to are not selling, I have good reason to believe these "major holders" are buying 2 million more. The question you should be asking is why are they buying and not selling. Asking the right question is often more important than knowing the answer.

You seem to insist that iETH is worthless, if so why is the market cap going upwards to a million dollars.
Why are holding addresses continuing to go up. It appears there has been over 300 new holders over the past few months.

If worthless the major holders do not appear to be selling. The market is usually smarter than you or I

In my opinion this is very similar to bitcoin in 2010 in terms of token numbers, holders and structure. If iETH is affiliated with Apple, Apple obviously has a time frame for this revelation. It may be never, which, is possible. Why would Apple announce and welcome the scrutiny that Libra received.

Regardless, the fair value on this token is easily at least 3$ per token. one could easily see 4 or 5$ per token fair for the current fair value, in my opinion.

I have studied this industry enough to know that much.
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price_and_volume price_and_volume 4 years ago
I contacted AAPL as an investor.

You should do likewise. Investor Relations were very helpful, and even transferred me to another department.

Possibly those folks were just lying to me when they said they had ZERO KNOWLEDGE of anything to do with iETH, but they responded positively when I suggested they consider examining copyright infringement.

I honestly don't know whether they bothered to follow-up with that - maybe they don't give a shit. Honestly, why would they?

But YOU SHOULD FOLLOW UP. CONTACT AAPL!

For some reason you seem to expect AAPL to go out of THEIR WAY to answer YOUR QUERY on iHUB? Nobody has ever heard of iETH, or cares about it, except you.
I have more than ample evidence to deem it a reputable source. Oh, good for you. I guess YOUR EVIDENCE is ONLY FOR YOU, but you demand others provide you with something... 'more'.

GLTU and your iETH buddies.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
okavango,

regarding iEthereum token,


I have more than ample evidence to deem it a reputable source. I think is is absolutely hilarious that you are asking me for a reputable source when I have been consistently honest and asking a basic question.

Meanwhile you continue to imply and suggest that I have not been candid and factual. May previous statement of a reputable source or sources is fact.

Okavango, you need to seriously quit projecting your lack of honesty on to me. Thanks.

I am still waiting for you to provide any factual information. My statements are statements of facts as I know them.

Once again, Fact Apple still has not denied the iETH token in a basic written public statement that I have seen.


Apple has denied centralized currency but not decentralized currency or made any specific comment on
iETH that I have seen. fact
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
okavngo,

Apparently you think you are a reputable source and get to ask me not to ask a very reasonable question. You have claimed that you have contacted Apple I am asking you to provide your source and looking forward to your answer. I have been very clear. I don't have any answers that is why I am asking Apple to produce a public official statement on the token. Here is another example of my basic question once again..


Apple please comment on the iETH (iEthereum token) or global currency, it has been almost 2 years since this token inception, thanks.

Apple you own this token until you say otherwise. either way it is 3$ token minimum. If Apple a 5000$ per token value.

it has your i -- prefix and your logo. It is not much to ask you to comment on that is it.

It would be nice if anyone involved in the project would actually produce any actionable investment information. Obviously if Apple, Apple corporation is keeping this information private for whatever reason.
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price_and_volume price_and_volume 4 years ago
Who's the "reputable source"?
nothing holding it back according to a reputable source A quick look at the price-chart shows SOMETHING is CLEARLY "holding it back". 1-year chart:


Apparently 25 investors have already bought 7 million and plan to buy 2 million more. How do you know their plans?

2 easy questions. Looking forward to hearing the answers, thanks.





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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago

So here is an response below from a guy on crypto board

However, this guy provides no evidence for that statements below.


If he had answers he would actually provide a link or written info.

Instead he just provides opinion.

I am asking once again to provided facts if you have any and written links to valid factual statements.

Apple has not made a public comment regarding the the iETH (iethereum token) or any denial of affiliation of the token that I have seen in print. .



He's been given answers. AAPL was contacted.[ b] (false) no answers have been given

1. He doesn't like the answers
2. So he name-calls ("frustrated", "don't be a jerk") asking him to be respectful on the site is not name calling that is called him projecting
3. While he continues to PUMP his shit-coin I am not pumping anything I am asking if Apple has made a written statement. Which is a valid question.
4. With multiple posts & replies only designed to attract attention not looking for attention just facts and written statement from Apple. Can't find it because as far as I know Apple has not made a statement

* Banned from the AAPL board after PUMPING his shit-coin there.
* Refuses to accept that AAPL contacted & claims NO KNOWLEDGE of shit-coin
* Refuses to contact AAPL personally because he already KNOWS THE ANSWER nope I don't know the answer that is why I have asked the question. projecting by him once again
* Demands AAPL reply to his posts here on iHUB...
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
only about 3 million in the float. iETH poised to fly ! nothing holding it back according to a reputable source. somebody buys the 3 million you will not believe your eyes. best investment in the entire crypto world if true. Apparently 25 investors have already bought 7 million and plan to buy 2 million more.

Apple still waiting on a statement of denial been over 2 years.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
Apple still no comment on iETH. they probably are behind this.

regardless if it was worthless their are 1940+ holders and it appears they are not selling.

iETH going to 2$ in my speculative opinion. If it goes to 2$ it will likely see 5$ very quickly based on blockchain math. Appears mainly long term hodlers


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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
OK,

since nobody will produce any valid facts or information or has answers to any of my questions.

I will be increasing my iETH (iethereum) tokens from 300k tokens to 400k tokens.


Blockchain comparisons and analysis of the market shows a current fair market of at least 75 cents per token. It looks like when it hits 75 cents it will see 1.25 per token quickly thereafter.

Appears no selling and minimal buying. I am aware of 3 other investors that are planning on buying 150k tokens each as well.

Therefore it appears only about 3.2 million tokens are left actually trading, rest appear to be held in wallets. It is simple math that shows this has a straight path to a dollar.

Ovango, still waiting for any facts. all you have offered is opinion. I am just providing math based on blockchain data and therefore facts.

If my above analysis is true it appears this is likely the best supply demand opportunity in the entire crypto world.

One more wave of buying and all buyers get extremely wealthy according to my math.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago

Apple has still not produced a written or public statement regarding iETH (iethereum token) statement after over 2 years.

Apple could do this simply with two sentences and have chosen not to.

I have a legitimate question as to why Apple has not produced a public statement.

Once again nobody has any information and Apple investor relations does not know that answer.

An official public statement from Apple is what would be helpful. I own Apple stock and expect Apple to

comment when a new technology has their logo outline.


Years ago when an ethereum wallet was on the Apple app store Apple commented within two days when it was found to be a fake wallet.

Therefore I believe because Apple has not made an official public statement it if very possible that iETH token could be and will be adopted slowly by Apple. Therefore, they may never comment. My logic tells me it is Apple's token until they actually deny it and deny decentralized currency. This is the only way Apple could ever launch a token in a global and decentralized way and would have to do so in secret.

Once again this is speculation but very plausible at this point. Software is also open source so Apple developers in conjunction with their cryptokit could continue to improve and expand on the token software etc.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago

This is an absolute certainty in my opinion. DEX (decentralized exchange picks up a few million tokens in the near future and the token price only goes up at that point in time will easily see 1$ per token based on that one fact alone.

it appears the the other dex exchanges do not move any iETH volume.


Not sure why? Please chime in if you have any opinions regarding why the DEX exchanges are not doing much volume.

Obviously coinbase buying a couple million tokens at this point would be worth huge $ for coinbase.

Appears iETH now listed on coinbase under search tab as well.


Still not a single cyptocurrency news article regarding the basic question of the Apple logo. unbelievable.

maybe someone could suggest investing.com could produce an analysis with facts. thanks.

Ovanngko, maybe you have a fact ?
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Scotttrader80 Scotttrader80 4 years ago
Looks like Oka has answered your questions

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=152643903
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
Apple has not produced any evidence or public statements of any kind regarding iETH that I am aware of. Okavango you are being misleading.

The only thing okavanko has given, is assumption without a single reference or fact or any written info or actionable information of value.

Okavanko. I will say it again, as you do not seem to understand my perspective, and there are other perspectives other than your own.

I am speculating. Which many people do when the formulate an investment hypothesis:

1. I believe it is possibly Apple open source software code behind the iEthereum token (iETH)

2. Apple investor relations does not know anything about this software.

3. The project was launched via air drop and in order to achieve widespread global distribution it was made to look broken with intentional typos on the white paper. Why? because having a decentralized global network is the best and most robust foundation for a global currency. If Apple would have announced the launch and their affiliation they would have never achieves widespread global distribution like they have done. This is huge for the network over the next 20 years. There appears to be millions of tokens sitting in the original air drop addresses that have never moved. I estimate that about 3 million tokens or so seem to be in the trading float as the rest appear to be off exchanges. -- math is simple. small business buys a couple million of the float tokens and this token price is off to the races similar to bitcoin in 2011. when it hits a dollar it will see 5$ token price within a few months thereafter in my opinion. I think 10$ token price is easily attainable longer term. with Apple accepting token on app store,Apple music etc, 2000$ token price is realistic

4. iethereum.com appears to be in development

5. Apple has not denied the above in a specific public written statement because they are affiliated in my opinion. Much like satoshi of bitcoin however Apple does not ever have to admit their associated.

6. What they will do however in my opinion and speculation once again, is to slowly adopt the token and give loyalty points for all Apple streaming services, Apple music, Apple App store purchases. Essentially promoting the global Apple ecosystem with the token.

7. Regardless whoever is the major holders they do not appear to be selling and the market cap is worth at least 5 million in my opinion. Currently sitting at 500k market cap. If it was worthless as you say than why are there no sellers.

8. Best opportunity if all of cryptocurrency if the above speculation is true.

Now Ovanko, just admit you are speculating on the contrary opinion. You should welcome this discussion as it appears very few are asking these basic questions. It appears the number of iETH holders continues to increase as well and remains little selling Will be interesting to see if iETH team produces an update soon. According to their timeline they will.

Finally Okavanko please include evidence or a written source for your confident opinion that it is not Apple. You have not done so. At least I have been clear that the above is my opinion and speculation. Therefore, I have been much more honest than you have been.

My analysis is simple: looks as if this could easily see a dollar per token with even one extremely small business adopting the token for cross boarder payments. 5$ token price easily for a couple companies choosing for super fast and super cheap remittance payments etc.

Apple we are waiting for an official written public statement on the iETH token. Not too much to ask.
developers investors are waiting for an update. no too much to ask.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
iEthereum token blockchain analysis looks as if the first address to hold 1 million tokens has a high probability of making a million dollars profit.

Apple the world is still waiting for a specific announcement regarding the iEthereum token outline or your logo. You have made two vague statements to far:

Apple has said in not so many words:

1. watching blockchain and blockchain is interesting. While hiring blockchain experts to develop in secret it appears.

2. denounced centralized currency. Meanwhile have said nothing regarding decentralized currency or iETH. Interestingly saying nothing about the currency with their logo painted on it. (iethereum token)

Ethereum also has their logo on it and have also remained silent. Still not one valid new article blog or story regarding these basic questions.



Regardless this token is easily worth a dollar per token in my opinion and has the best branding in all of cryptocurrency as is instantly recognizable with ethereum logo at the core of the Apple. Seems to me an existing blockchain smart contract should just incorporate the token into the contract language and create instant huge value.


One bank,business of small community accumulating a couple million tokens at this point and it goes straight to a dollar.

very few sellers it appears according to blockchain data. looks like about 3 million tokens trading while the rest are held in addresses off the exchanges. therefore it is easy to see this going to a dollar all things being equal moving forward. The interesting thing about blockchain is one can see any major transfers moving toward the exchanges and this does not seem to be happening.

Current investors are waiting on an update from the incognito developers as well. Apparently they are trying to be the Satoshi of iETH (iethereum token). Actually further reinforces the future value indicating this continues to be very decentralized.

Finally somebody please chime in if iETH is censorable, or removable. My understanding is it will exist on the ethereum blockchain for 20 + years. likely at least 100$ token value or much more by that point in time. Please correct me if my analysis is wrong or anyone has an alternative opinion. Thanks.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
Okavankgo,

You are asking me to relax? LOL

You have led me to water? LOL You have not offered any information and just admit you know nothing about this token. I am asking a simple question about why Apple has not commented when their logo is on the token after 2 years since the token was listed on at least 4 exchanges? Simple question.

This token is easily worth 2$ at current fair value according to my research and market comparisons. Am I entitled to an opinion or do I need to ask you before I can place an opinion?


You are attempting to convey that by my asking a question I am somehow being unreasonable. While you act as if you are helping people by assuming what you don't know and pretending you have any facts.

I recommend that you allow people to ask questions that are completely valid. If you have any valid facts please provide those as I have asked you to do so on over 5 occasions and you have not provided any.

You are not leading anyone to water. Nor am I. I am honest enough to say I am simply looking for an answer to the above question.

If you want to lead someone to water I suggest you attempt to ask the developers (whoever the heck they are) to actually post an update. I suggest you call Apple an attempt to ask investor relations.
Good luck with Apple making any statements via investor relations or otherwise if they are willing to they would have already done so. My theory says, it is possible Apple has not denied the token as they would be lying if they did. Tron merged their ERC token to their own blockchain and iETH could easily do the same or one smart contract integration into a huge value. The reality is the future potential is unknown. Just admit that it is unknown.

Apple has been very irresponsible for not making a public statement 2 years ago. Not sure why I need to relax for asking a very appropriate question. good luck on you ICO investments which have been shown to mostly be a joke. My logic tells me if iETH was such a bad token why didn't the developers sell it in an ICO if they really wanted to profit from it. In a decentralized world you should change your paradigm. You may want to attempt to open your mind. At least I admit my theory is speculation while you seem to think you have facts. If so, we are all still relaxing and waiting for your facts.
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price_and_volume price_and_volume 4 years ago
Relax Max. Nobody believes your shit-coin spam.

I've given you answers. I've led you to water, which you refuse to drink.

Good luck.

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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
if iETH (iethereum) is not Apples token ..... Apple has not made a public statement that says so.

I am speaking fact, ovangko and you sound frustrated.


Im not sure why you do not admit that Apple has not denied the token or even spoken about the logo outline. Apple denied centralized currency. I have good reason to believe that are working on decentralized blockchain and could easily merge the iETH (iethereum token) with Apples new proprietary blockchain and it would make sense for Apple to launch in the way that iETH airdropped to avoid all the legal ramifications that the fraudulent ICOs ran into. My guess is you probably espouse IPOs and ICOs and think that is a wise investment. I am taking a paradigm shift and saying the airdrop is a much more fair, decentralized and better investment. Therefore, iETH is much ahead as did not ICO

I am simply looking for any valid facts from anybody that knows any facts regarding iETH
The most interesting question is simple once again. Why has Apple not denied any affiliation with iETH? it has been two years and their logo outline is on the token. Seems to me a 2 sentence public statement would be very easy to do. My point is Apple is not protecting their logo if it is in fact not Apple.



I have invested 7k into the token and will be more than enough whether it is Apple or not.


I sincerely believe that the token has a current fair value of 2-3$ minimum especially when it sends upwards of 50x faster than bitcoin and bitcoin is at 8k. It is a mirror image of bitcoin from 2010. And once again any small use case scenarios, small business could easily pick up a million tokens and use the token for cross boarder payments.

Once again you are responding to my question without any answers. Obviously you are frustrated at least based on your the tone of your responses. Just admit you don't know rather than pretending you already know the answer.

I would love to have posted in 2010 that bitcoin will yield a million percent return in 10 years. I can about imaging how you have responded to that notion. once again lighten up
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
OKavango,

Don't project your frustration on to me. I am not frustrated. I am asking for any opinions that people have Your frustration with asking for an opinion is the question you should be asking yourself. You obviously do not have an answer to my question so just say. I agree it is an interesting question.


Apple has not commented after 2 years on iETH token specifically. That is the only fact you know.

I have every right to ask a question that thousands of other people want to know.

Once again Why has Apple not commented on the logo. My theory is because only Tim Cook and Vitalik actually know about the iethereum software code that was written on the blockchain. If Cook comments he would be lying as he is not ready to merge the token with the Apple blockchain yet.


I have every right to ask a question on a public forum. Logically it makes not sense for Apple not to make a public statement. Unless, Apple was involved in my opinion.

I am sorry that you are unable to admit that you do not have the answer to my question.

The other question I have is twofold. my understanding is IETH will be immutable for 30 years on the blockchain assuming that is does not merge with Apple. What will the token be worth in 10 years time.
I think at least 15$ per token. 400x investment potential in that case. Name another token or coin that has that potential upside.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
Okavango, iETH is not my token. I am asking a simple question that is still unanswered. Why has Apple corporation not made a public statement regarding the token outline. My theory is very plausible. They own it and are not ready to announce yet until the Apple blockchain merger with the token. Just a theory but a better theory than you have been able to offer thus far. Apple has had over 2 years to comment and they remain silent.

iETH (iEthereum token) only has 18 million tokens in the entire world as "finite cap forever" -- I'm quoting the white paper.


Why is bitcoin worth 9k ---- because more people are buying it at that price than selling it. That is the only reason. as use case is still very limited.

Bitcoin like iETH was trading for about 4 cents years ago. If I would have posted back then and told you that you would get a million percent return on your investment by buying bitcoin what would you have said?

You would have said I was being unrealistic and according to your previous responses would have been much more unkind to my theory.

All I am saying is iETH is ready to see a dollar and when it does it will see 3$ per token very soon. Why?
historically 3 million tokens will go lost or locked after the airdrop. Therefore there are only about 15 million tokens available worldwide. My blockchain analysis tells me iETH will be existing on the ethereum blockchain for the next 25 years + as is immutable, decentralized and not censorable. Therefore the value will likely never go back from the current value.

Looking at chain analysis is looks as though the is almost no selling. Simple question? Why is there no selling when their are 1770+ holders? Simple the holders likely know something we don't and are holding. My chain analysis says easily a dollar per token in the next 12 months likely much higher.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
I am not pumping jack, im asking a question. Sorry if you can't answer it, Okavanko.

Obviously you can't, after months nobody has any information or facts. if so they certainly have not posted any.

I am asking for facts. I am asking Apple to make a specific statement regarding a decentralized airdrop called iethereum token that is all.


My logic is not flawed it is actually much more logical than yours.


If Apple wanted to launch a currency here is what they would do if smart: (Libra made this mistake in my opinion) much better foundation than bitcoin ever had in terms of being decentralized and on a much better blockchain. iETH without a single fork and apparently was spread across the globe from day 1, sends much faster than bitcoin, even after all the attempted upgrades to bitcoin. iETH is apparently open source which would be perfect for Apple to adopt and potentially merge the token to Apples future blockchain (which is all but certain eventually). open source allows essentially infinite approval at that point and infinite use cases limited only by Apples imagination.

1. create a shitty white paper on purpose -- making the token look low budget. which they did as they made no effort to change the blatant typos while updating the page on at least 5 occasions already.

2. give token away (which they did)

3. make a vague statement like "we are watching crypto" -- the original iethereum git hub developer (I think his first name is Gerd Moe -- is in fact an Apple developer" self proclaimed on his page.

4. come out against centralized projects like Libra, while Apple secretly hired the best blockchain developers as early as 2014. facts look it up

5. no deny the token or even put out a 2 sentence statement of denial regarding iETH even though their logo is on the token. Why? because I believe it legitimately may be Apple. Therefore, they are not willing to lie and say it is not Apple.

6. Still not one new story in the cryptocurrency news written to discuss the most interesting token in all of cryptocurrency world. Finally if Apple market cap will go to 20 billion within the first 2 months. so the upside at this point is gigantic. it is literally the next bitcoin if I am right. Regardless fair value on the token even if not Apple is at least $1.50 per token in the next year. especially because it is immutable which means the token with leverage on the ethereum blockchain for 50 years. At least that is my understanding.

Ovanko, your posts have been banal and offer no insight. You do seem to be frustrated but not sure why.
I hope you figure that frustration piece out, if nothing else. I am sincerely just trying to ask a question about a very logical question.

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price_and_volume price_and_volume 4 years ago
It has nothing to do with Apple. Contact them.

And this makes no sense:
"after 750 days my logic says we are approaching 99.99% this could likely be Apple."
Your logic is flawed.

iHUB is a pumper's paradise. I AM being "kind" in attempting help strangers.

I warn-away those who may be naive-enough to believe ridiculous claims made by pumpers on iHUB.

If your 2c shit-coin is really worth $4, just buy it all up and HODL.

Good luck in your quest.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
b]Until Apple makes a statement it is Apple. I have as much evidence as you have to state the contrary, okavango.

nice try and be kind especially when you have not facts to back up your bravado of confidence. At least I

am being honest and admit I don't have facts. I don't have to ask your permission to ask a question.

I have a question for you, simply, why has Apple not commented in a public written statement indicating

that iETH is not affiliated. They interestingly commented on "watching crypto" with is iETH -- Apple watch app.


Apple commented on centralized launch. iETH is decentralized. each passing day based on my logic makes in 0.25% more certain it is Apple until they say otherwise.

Therefore after 750 days my logic says we are approaching 99.99% this could likely be Apple.


Even if it is not Apple the chain analysis puts the value of token and logo and ethereum name at way above 2$ per token. Mirror image of bitcoin at 4 cents years ago but a much better blockchain as well.
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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
OK officially no valid information, or nobody has any new information about the IETH (iEthereum token), or nobody actually reading these posts.

Still feel iETH has a 33x-200x possibility over the next year or less based on chain analysis and historical distribution analysis

Therefore I am increasing my holdings from 200k tokens to 300k tokens. I am aware of 5 other investors who will be buying 300k tokens each over the next year

With one new use case by a small business, small branch bank or new exchange adopting the token 100x on the current value is easily possible in my opinion. With a million dollars in transactional volumes on this token it would sky beyond belief according to historical blockchain math and data analytics. Obviously once Apple corporation makes a specific statement regarding the token it will be a top 10 market cap token within hours.


As always any valid factual information regarding this token would be helpful. It is more than overdue for the developers (whoever the heck they are) to update the website timeline and white paper.

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jjPP jjPP 4 years ago
Anyone have any opinions on iETH Apple logo token?


Just curious what people think. Remains a very intriguing token but lack up updates from developers?

Very unusual?

Once again Tim Cook could easily make a quick statement regarding the Apple logo on iEthereum token, why would he not comment. Ideas?

Appreciate any news or info you may have.
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