MrAce
2 hours ago
It's obvious no one here shares your disgust. So WHY work soo hard to persuade us??? You have never addressed this question. You also have not presented one relevant mistake or failure on Kraig's part. Those you have listed are perceived,,,meaning your interpretation, which you are welcome to have. GLTA
I on the other hand am in the pro KB camp, see nothing but successes.
BE SMART
Bullish
Bullish
SilkRoad
7 hours ago
.1135 is the pps quote on iHub and if you look at the 1M chart it is a very noticeable uptick over the past several days. I was thinking the pps would go up in anticipation of the video and then go down after but instead it continued to go up. So where are we at with this pps? I mean, the silk production situation is waaaaaaay better than it was during the Polartec announcement. I’ve been saying I felt like the pps should be at .18 this year due to BAM-1, and I refer you to my previous explanations as to why, and yet — the pps hasn’t gotten there (to .18).
Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy the pps is above .11. I just don’t understand why the pps isn’t higher based on the monumental announcements and achievements over the past several months and on December 4th. This is a life-changing game-breaking technological breakthrough. I’ve always been here to make dollars not pennies based on the potential of spidersilk. I think KBLB is underestimated and the underdog. And that means more pent up energy for when the pps finally breaks.
I’m not yet seeing the media coverage one would expect after what Kim and his team announced on December 4. It’s almost business journalist malpractice not to pick up on what has been revealed and forecast. Maybe it is a good thing for us that the rest of the investment community allows us to continually fly under the radar. Because like I said, the energy is building up. You can twist that propeller only so far before the rubberband makes the wooden plane take off.
Maybe the pps is on a slow up or maybe it will continue to sway between .08’s, .09’s, .10’s, and .11’s, but I don’t anticipate it ever going back to .03 based on everything that came out last week. If anything, it should be moving higher on anticipation of multi-tons and sales. .18 is my firm belief of where it should be at a minimum right now. The recent production announcements raise the support for that. Speculation and new interest could drive the pps, but it appears it is going to take a proven 1.5 tons and either a name brand and/or tangible end products to get the market to notice what we already know — KBLB is the real deal.
Kong on.
WebSlinger
7 hours ago
For newbies to this stock....
The pumpers main premise for the stock is that the Scumbag CEO's words are trustworthy and true. They regurgitate everything that he says constantly, and even exaggerate or lie about it.
The problem with that premise is that the Douchebag CEO is a serial liar. He has lied to shareholders for 15+ years. He has stated that the company has been in commercial production for over 10 years:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175495954
Here is an incomplete list of goals that the Douchebag CEO stated KBLB would accomplish over the years (yet not one of them was):
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174840227
The pumpers will say that is all "old news" and that things "are different now", but they really aren't.
For the past year, the Scumbag CEO has insinuated that KBLB was going to produce a metric ton of spider-ish silk before the end of 2024. The YouTube video from last Thursday shows that they aren't even close. They haven't even produced 1/4 metric ton to date. This proves that he is continuing to lie to shareholders.
For the previous 4 years, the Douchebag CEO has insinuated that KBLB would make up to $40 million from their deal with Kings / MtheMovement, yet not $1 was made.
The pumpers know that, so they personally attack anyone that goes against them, call them names, say that they are market makers / shorters / paid by competitors / etc, and try to discredit them, but all one has to do is look at the facts that are presented and verify those facts themselves.
CAVEAT EMPTOR|
WebSlinger
7 hours ago
***** HISTORY OF KBLB (FALSELY) CLAIMING "PRODUCTION" (UPDATED) *****
KBLB has been (falsely) claiming that they have been in production for over 10 years. In reality, they haven't produced more than a dozen or so kilos of spider-ish silk (at most).
The following are actual titles of KBLB PRs over the past decade that all state that commercial production was "just around the corner" (yet we are all still waiting):
Jan 22, 2013 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories to Launch Monster Silk Pilot Production Program
Jul 15, 2013 - Kraig to Launch Commercial Production of Monster Silk
Oct 7, 2013 - Kraig Launches Commercial Production of Monster Silk
Mar 20, 2014 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories’ Spider Silk is on Track for Large Scale Production
May 29, 2014 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories’ Spider Silk Production Poised to Double
Jul 9, 2014 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories’ Succeeds In Doubling Its Production Of Monster Silk
May 16, 2016 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories, Inc. To Establish Additional Production Operations For Spider Silk
Oct 11, 2016 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories’ New Spider Silk Production Facility Reaches Peak Capacity Ahead Of Schedule
Dec 19, 2016 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Completes First Phase Of Dragon Silk Fiber Production For Its Military Contract
Apr 17, 2017 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Expands Domestic Spider Silk Production Capacity
Apr 11, 2018 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories’ New R&D Facility Extends Its Competitive Advantages and Prepares for Large Scale Production
Jul 3, 2018 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Management Travels to Vietnam to Oversee the Opening of Its Spider Silk Production Subsidiary, Prodigy Textiles
Jul 24, 2018 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Accelerates Its Spider Silk Production Ramp up
May 7, 2019 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Expands Production Footprint in Vietnam
May 30, 2019 - Spider Silk Production Breakthrough from Kraig Biocraft Laboratories
Oct 8, 2019 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Launches Spider Silk Production Scale up with New Delivery of Silkworms to Prodigy Textiles
Dec 17, 2019 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Readies for First Commercial Shipment of Recombinant Spider Silk and Accelerated Growth in Production
May 12, 2020 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Prepares for 2020 Production
Oct 28, 2020 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Delivers Recombinant Spider Silk Silkworm Eggs To Production Facility In Vietnam
Mar 10, 2021 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Increases Planned Production By Doubling Near Term Spider Silk Production Schedule
Jun 01, 2021 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Strengthens Production Operations With New Automated Equipment
Jul 27, 2021 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Provides Spider Silk Production Update
Aug 17, 2021 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Completes Transition Of Production Operations To Custom Designed Silk Rearing Facility
Dec. 02, 2021 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Begins Production Of Fourth Generation Recombinant Spider Silk Silkworms In New Production Headquarters
Dec. 09, 2021 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Expands Production Footprint, Building Self Reliant Supply Chain
Apr 27, 2022 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Kicks Off Q2 Recombinant Spider Silk Production As Lab Increases Testing Throughput Nearly Ten Fold
May 3, 2022 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Strengthens Q2 Spider Silk Production Expansion With New Vendor Quality Assurance Program
Jun 21, 2022 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Subcontractor Pilot Production Has Achieved Required Spider Silk Production Levels For The Spydasilk Apparel Launch
Jul 6, 2022 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Introduces New, Enhanced Line Of Dragon Silk Silkworms For Commercial Production
Jan 26, 2023 - Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Delivers The First Two Hybrid Dragon Silk Silkworm Strains For Commercial Production
DON'T BUY THE HYPE, OR THE SNAKE OIL
WebSlinger
7 hours ago
<< serial liars do NOT bring in renowned experts like Jeff Dorton and Dr. Kumar to stake their reputation on lies. >>
What??? That is total nonsense.
You ever hear about Enron, WorldCom, Tyco International, Theranos, FTX, the COVID vaccines, and the list goes on and on and on...
arachnodude
11 hours ago
As KBLB continues ramping up towards Commercialization, expect heightened negativity from those benefiting from the opposite.
Understand the Game Behind the Negative Narrative
It's fascinating to watch how some individuals tirelessly focus on painting a doom-and-gloom picture of KBLB while conveniently ignoring the company’s undeniable progress and potential. But let’s take a step back and ask: why is there such relentless energy devoted to spinning every milestone into a negative? The answer is simple—it’s a classic short-seller playbook.
Here’s how the game works:
1. Create Fear: Constantly harp on dilution, ignore strategic use of funds, and twist every achievement into a "problem." The goal? To scare retail investors into selling and drive the stock price down.
2. Cherry-Pick the Past: Drag up years-old issues that have long been addressed to keep the focus away from current progress. Ignore the advancements in production, infrastructure, and expertise—just keep the narrative stuck in the past.
3. Ignore the Big Picture: Why mention that KBLB has built capacity for multi-ton production or that they’ve exceeded past years’ outputs combined in just six months? Why acknowledge that ramping production to commercial scale is no easy feat? Because doing so undermines the fear-driven agenda.
4. Profit from Panic: The lower the price goes, the more shorts stand to gain. It’s not about facts; it’s about fostering doubt and uncertainty.
As KBLB investors, it’s critical to recognize these tactics for what they are: attempts to manipulate sentiment for personal gain. Meanwhile, Mr. T is focused on the bigger picture—scaling production, advancing commercialization, and delivering a revolutionary product that has the potential to transform entire industries.
The truth is, bringing something as groundbreaking as spider silk to market takes time, effort, and innovation. KBLB isn’t just building a product; they’re building a new market category. That kind of pioneering work doesn’t happen overnight, and those who understand this recognize the immense long-term value at play here.
So, while the naysayers keep spinning their wheels, remember this: the louder the fear-mongering, the closer we are to disrupting the status quo. The question is, are you here for the short-term noise or the long-term revolution?
WebSlinger
12 hours ago
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First, why do people take the Scumbag CEO at his word, when his word has been proven over and over again to be worthless for the past 15+ years?
In the last year, he has stated over and over again that he would produce a metric ton (about 2200 lbs) of silk, yet he has made nowhere even close to that. He didn't make 3/4 of a metric ton, or 1/2 metric ton, or even a 1/4 metric ton.
He said that he was going to produce up to $40 MILLION worth of product with Kings / MtheMovement, yet KBLB made $0 worth.
He said that he was going to have a Spydasilk website and brand in the "coming weeks", but it never happened.
He has lied over and over and over again for 15+ years, yet now he is telling the truth????
C'mon....
Second, even if some believe what he is saying (which I don't), 10,000 lbs of silk yarn is most probably not going to contain a metric ton of silk. Most of the competition that has produced actual spider-ish silk products, has created yarn blends that are very low percentages of silk. The Douchebag CEO has stated many times that they were working on a Pima Cotton / spider-ish silk blend as their first yarn. My guess is that the yarn will be < 10% silk, which would be < 1,000 lbs of silk produced next year (or about 80 lbs per month).
DiamondHealer95
21 hours ago
Why are we posting articles from websites nobody's ever heard of to promote this company?
Why are we ignoring the fact that KBLB didn't meet their goal of 1 metric ton by the end of 2024?
Fyi there's a spydasilk website, TikTok, twitter, and Instagram. It's coming.
Why can't silk read? The web conference stated ONE batch in 2025 will produce more than all of 2024. So basically if 2024 produced half a metric ton (.50) then all that ONE month they said will have to produce is .50000000000000001. It was very crafty how they worded it.
Why are we arguing and theorizing?
I told you all (y'all for the idiot that doesn't understand grammar), February 2025 (and 3-7 years out from big gains).
You can all revisit this forum and my post without complaining, arguing, theorizing, etc. in February and then in 3 years.
Otherwise, you're wasting your time being drama divas!
arachnodude
24 hours ago
Dr. Kumar has over 40 years of expertise leading silk production at a national level, revolutionizing processes that benefited an entire industry. Meanwhile, you're here throwing outdated quotes on a message board. Truly the pinnacle of "doing," right? Lol
Your math on cocoons is laughable at best. If KBLB produced 325 lbs in June and now reports 1200 lbs, that's nearly 900 lbs in 6 months—150 lbs per month. And with every cycle, they're ramping up exponentially. Trying to apply linear math to a clearly compounding production model is a rookie mistake.
KBLB has doubled cocoon size, increased production efficiency, and is now self-sustaining. Those aren't "issues," those are milestones. Try harder.
Maybe it's time to stop trying to short the stock and start shorting your tired arguments instead.
SilkRoad
1 day ago
Hey KBLB Kongs, watch the video, like, comment, and subscribe to let the YouTube algorithms know you appreciate the work the entire Kraig Biocraft Laboratories team did in putting together this video for us. Kim and the team look happy, energized, and ready to bring spidersilk to the Global market in multi-ton quantities in 2025. So get in, get on, be good, and only three slappies allowed. Shout out to Uncle Fish as I’m stealing his lingo here. But anybody who gets it has to be excited about what is being done in Michigan and Vietnam. The spider-verse will never be the same after 2025!
And if you know who Uncle Fish is, then you and I have another thing In common.
Kong on.
MrAce
1 day ago
Even IF everything you say is accurate...it still doesn't explain why you are here helping and convincing us that this is such a bad company. WHY????
It's obvious no one here shares your disgust. So WHY work soo hard to persuade us??? You have never addressed this question. You also have not presented one relevant mistake or failure on Kraig's part. Those you have listed are perceived,,,meaning your interpretation, which you are welcome to have. GLTA
I on the other hand am in the pro KB camp, see nothing but successes.
BE SMART
fza
1 day ago
First off, those are the words of the Scumbag CEO, and not Mr Kumar.
You are right and I stand corrected. By the way it is Dr. not Mr. In regards to the predictions, Kim using "expect" is positive none the less. I look forward to 54+/- days into next year. But thanks for the addition dated items.....copy, paste, repeat. I hadn't seen those in at least a few days.
WebSlinger
1 day ago
First, Dr. Kumar is a retired teacher. There is a saying that you might know - “Those who can, do; those who can’t, teach.”
2. Production Reality - On Jun 17, KBLB stated (in a PR) that they had over 325 lbs of cocoons. Now, 6 months later, they stated that they have 1200 lbs of cocoons. So they are producing about 145 lbs of cocoons per month, which would equate to around 15 lbs of silk per month (if they ever get around to actually making any silk).
<< Production issues from years ago are irrelevant when current systems are delivering results. >>
What about production issues from this year? Are those still relevant? Or are you going to try to sweep them under the rug as well?
arachnodude
1 day ago
That’s an impressive checklist of complaints—one you've been recycling for years without acknowledging any of the actual progress KBLB has made. It must be exhausting trying to distort reality day after day while ignoring milestones like the first-ever commercial-scale spider silk production platform or the half-ton+ of recombinant spider silk cocoons produced this year.
Let’s address your highlights:
1. Dr. Kumar’s Integrity
Dismissing a globally respected expert in silk production as someone who “says whatever he’s told” is peak trolling. This is a professional whose career spans decades in selective breeding and silkworm genetics, far exceeding any pseudo-credibility you think you're wielding. Unlike anonymous forum posters, his reputation is built on results.
2. Production Reality
It’s hilarious how you downplay producing over 1,200 lbs of cocoons in 2024 while clinging to numbers like "10-20 lbs" a month. Did you even watch the entire investor video, or does acknowledging exponential production growth threaten your narrative?
3. Reeling Concerns
Of course there’s a process to turn cocoons into yarn—it’s called manufacturing. The BAM-1 hybrids have already addressed historical challenges with consistency and yield. Why pretend otherwise when it’s been disclosed that reeling parameters are being optimized?
4. Drip-Feeding the Doubt
Your favorite claim: "If they had yarn in inventory, they would have disclosed it." You mean like they disclosed the plan to hit multi-ton production in 2025 and target specific industries for launch? This isn’t a court drama where every piece of evidence needs to be spoon-fed on cue.
5. Word Salad Accusation
"Expect" is a word CEOs use because production ramp-ups depend on controlled variables. This isn’t "guesswork," but a measured statement grounded in metrics. Funny how when Spiber or other companies use similar language, you stay quiet.
6. Recycled Narratives
Your desperate laundry list of "NOPEs" relies on cherry-picking historical setbacks while pretending all progress since never happened. Production issues from years ago are irrelevant when current systems are delivering results.
If your energy spent spewing negativity was redirected into actual research, you’d realize KBLB isn’t selling dreams—they’re executing a strategy to dominate an industry no one else has commercially cracked.
But I get it, keeping investors doubting serves your agenda better than acknowledging reality. Carry on pretending you’re the gatekeeper of truth while the rest of us focus on tangible KBLB/Spider Silk advancements.
WebSlinger
1 day ago
<< according to the Dr. >>
First off, those are the words of the Scumbag CEO, and not Mr Kumar.
Second, he is a paid consultant. He will say whatever the Douchebag tells him to say.
<< That would be 15% of 10K. >>
First off, the Scumbag CEO has NEVER met any of the announced significant goals over the past 15+ years.
- 2015 "scale and sale" - NOPE
- 2018 delivery of shootpacks - NOPE
- 2019 Polartec partnership - NOPE
- 2019/2020 commercial production - NOPE
- 2021-2024 Kings / MtheMovement $40M contract - NOPE
- 2023 Website / Product Launch - NOPE
- 2024 metric ton - NOPE
So there is no indication that anything that the Douchebag CEO says can be believed.
KBLB is currently "producing" about 10-20 lbs of silk a month (if anyone believe thems). Even if that estimate is doubled or tripled or quadrupled, they won't have a significant amount of silk for a long, long time.
In addition, the "silk" hasn't even been reeled yet or turned into yarn. It is currently in cocoons, and we don't know if there will be issues with processing it (and I am guessing there will be issues).
<< If they already have some yarn in inventory >>
They don't. If they did have yarn in inventory, then it would have been disclosed in the YouTube video the other day.
<< He says "expect" 10K lbs which by definition means he anticipates this with a degree of certainty. >>
Nonsense. It is just the word salad that the Douchebag CEO uses to cover his butt when they don't make their goals.
<< This professional is putting his reputation on the line and I can only assume that his country of origin is listening very intently. >>
No, he isn't. He's been singing the same old song for over 15 years, and almost everyone on this board bows down to him and follows along blindly.