Pacjd
6 hours ago
GET
Thanks for bringing this to my attention that this was mentioned in a 8k, which I never saw or knew about until you posted it, this can be said for other investors as well whom did not know about the GTHP - Shenghou fee split agreement. So I hereby immediately RETRACT MY COMMENT OF NON DISCLOSURE.
THE ITEM 13 YOU QUOTED:
13. SUBSEQUENT EVENTS
On February 17, 2024, the Company entered into a fourth amendment to the agreement with SMI. Under the terms of the amended agreement, SMI also agreed to pay the Company $531,100 on or prior to March 15, 2024. MAKES IT SOUND LIKE GTHP GETS ALL THESE FESS AND DOES NOT REFERENCE THAT THESE FEES ARE TO BE SHARED WITH SHENGHOU LLC , so perhaps this is misleading by not referencing again a fee spliting arrangement that most investors like yourself were unaware of.
What is MOST INTERESTING about your posting referencing the fee splitting agreement is: GTHP (disinterested Directors "effectively waived the conflict-of-interest provisions of the Company’s code of ethics." "On January 15, 2017, each of the disinterested directors on the Company’s Board of Directors, having considered the interests of Dr. Faupel and Mr. Blumberg and having approved the agreement, effectively waived the conflict-of-interest provisions of the Company’s code of ethics." THIS LOOKS LIKE A RED FLAG TO ME
I will again say that Shenghou LLC the original License Agreement Holder was a sham transaction, as Shenghou did not have the expertise to fulfill its obligation under the same, and perhaps it is a self directed dealing of GTHP assets - Splitting GTHP fees to insiders Faupel and Blumberg who are owners in Shenghou., LLC. and perhaps GTHP effectively waived its conflict of interests code to allow Faupel and Blumberg to receive compensation at the expense of the shareholders of GTHP, without having to disclose this as compensation to these two insiders at GTHP. I would call this turning a blind eye.
GetSeriousOK
21 hours ago
I just posted the link to the agreement -- and it was FREE.
That agreement has been in black-and-white for GTHP investors to see for quite some time. It is already DISCLOSED so you can stop posting your libelous statements, please and thank you.
I fail to see this agreement as a negative for GTHP investors. Shenghuo only gets money if SMI pays money. More important, without that agreement there would have been no SMI and there would be no Chinese clinical trials completed, because obviously Shenghuo wasn't going to accomplish anything in China.
The REAL value here is in the FDA approval. That's going to take awhile but I'm quite confident that this time the FDA will approve the device. FDA approval has nothing to do with your lawsuit and it has nothing to do with Shenghuo. If SMI pays any money, that will be icing on the cake (they already paid $330,000), but even if they don't pay any more money, they already accomplished a valuable feat: Chinese clinical trials were completed without costing Guided a lot of money, and the submission to the Chinese FDA can now happen whether SMI does it or not.
GetSeriousOK
3 weeks ago
I didn't read the 10-K word-for-word but I searched for some important strings. Here's the most interesting part:13. SUBSEQUENT EVENTS
On February 17, 2024, the Company entered into a fourth amendment to the agreement with SMI. Under the terms of the amended agreement, SMI also agreed to pay the Company $531,100 on or prior to March 15, 2024. On March 18, 2024, SMI, through SMI’s authorized distribution partner, initiated a wire payment of $330,000 in partial satisfaction of $531,100 owed to the Company. The payment was received by the Company on March 20, 2024. As the full payment was not received by March 15, 2024, the Company had the right to terminate the agreement with two weeks’ notice to SMI, however the Company did not exercise this option.
The amended agreement also provides for a timeline for the Company to deliver inventory during 2024, including LuViva devices and components, as well as approximately 1,640,000 RFID chips. In consideration, SMI agreed to pay a total of $4.4 million during 2024, including the payments due on March 15, 2024.
On March 27, 2024, the parties entered into a Standstill Agreement (the “Standstill Agreement”). The parties agreed that SMI will make a nonrefundable payment of $100,000 to the Company prior to March 31, 2024. In exchange, the Company will not initiate any legal proceedings, including but not limited to filing a lawsuit, obtaining a judgement, or enforcing any security interest, as related to the March shortfall in payments of $201,100, until April 30, 2024. Upon paying $100,000, SMI will have the option to extend the Standstill Agreement until June 15, 2024 by making a nonrefundable payment to the Company of $150,000. One additional payment of $150,000 may be made to extend the standstill rights until July 30, 2024, if mutually agreed upon. If SMI is unable to make the payments pursuant to the Standstill Agreement, the Company agreed to seek loans on behalf of SMI to cover the payments. SMI agreed to reimburse the Company for these loans along with all expenses associated with them within three months of the loans being issued as long as the loans are used solely for (1) parts for LuViva devices to be used by SMI for marketing and promotional activities, or (2) labor or consulting fees connected to providing parts, assemblies of devices or disposables to SMI. Additionally, SMI confirmed its commitment to make payments to GTI of at least $4.0 million during 2024 and as part of this commitment will make payments of $200,000 and $500,000 by the end of May 2024 and July 2024, respectively, to ensure that the program commercialization proceeds according to schedule.
To paraphrase: SMI paid some money! To my surprise, honestly. They didn't pay as much as promised, but they did pay $330,000 and they will pay a monthly penalty (about $100,000 for every 30 days) to kick the can down the road. It's called a "Standstill Agreement" and I've never heard of such a thing before.
SMI re-committed to paying $4 million in 2024 but they can't afford peanuts now so that continues to seem like an empty promise to me.
Otherwise, not much that's new. US clinical trials proceeding slowly. Debt decreased. Still over $400k in deferred revenue. SMI says they will submit the application to the NMPA in second quarter.
GetSeriousOK
2 months ago
History of GTHP for new investors - a primer
Of course, everyone does their own exhaustive DD before they buy a stock, but if any new investors want the Cliff notes:
GTHP got their 3rd FDA rejection in April 2015. Here's the PR:
https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/GTHP/news/FDA-Completes-Review-of-Guided-Therapeutics-LuViva-Advanced-Cervical-Scan-PMA-Application?id=105061
The PR doesn't seem all that negative as FDA rejections go, but this rejection caught GTHP by surprise. Plan A was to get the PMA approval and get financing, so when the PMA was rejected they had no money and no plan B. The company fell into toxic death spiral financing with a couple of VERY shady lenders (One of which got into trouble with the SEC and caused them to dump in June 2023 but that's a different story). There was a 1:100 R/S in Feb 2016 and when the PPS tanked there was another R/S, this time 1:800, in 11/2016, but the PPS tanked even harder after that second R/S.
The company had no money and frankly not much hope of surviving, but somehow, Cartwright the CEO managed to get rid of the toxic lenders over the next few years. The company re-established communication with the FDA in 07/2017 and when they did the most recent R/S in March 2019, the resulting PPS of 15 cents has held.
They managed to get funding for a new clinical study, and it's coming to completion:
https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT04915495
Notice I didn't mention SMI. I will believe the China Hype when GTHP gets a sizable check. If you read all the China PR's I think you'll agree that SMI has failed to fulfill their promises time and time again. The good news is that the China clinical study with 400 participants was apparently completed and was successful; that will bolster GTHP's amended PMA when they submit.
I have no doubt that the US clinical trial will be successful and that GTHP will submit the amended PMA. After that, it's hard to say how long the FDA will take to review the PMA, but it's an amended PMA, not a brand new submission. I also never assume any FDA submission is a slam dunk, but in my opinion, this is as close to a slam dunk as it gets.
I'm not sure why our resident basher is trying so hard to raise FUD. My only guess is that he held after that 2015 FDA rejection, which is something I've learned not to do -- yes I lost money in 2015 but I accept the risk of FDA plays, so I sold my entire position the day after that PR, took my loss, and moved on, watching and waiting. If our basher held, the R/S's in 2016 reduced his position to ashes, which I guess would make anyone bitter.
When that 2019 R/S held its resulting 15 cents, I started getting back in. It's not common for a pennystock developmental biotech hold its price after a R/S. It's SUPER uncommon. Our resident basher thinks the PPS should be at $5 but I'm surprised it didn't fall to a penny after that 3rd R/S.
So here we are, close to the milestone of completing that clinical trial and submitting the PMA. It would be nice if SMI mails a check because GTHP has to be out of cash by now, so I expect some bridge financing if SMI doesn't pony up. $500,000 from SMI in March would be a godsend, IMO, but again, I'll believe it when the check clears.
Also of note: it's important to know that the giul lawsuit against shenghuo does not name GTHP as a defendant. The lawsuit started in 2019 and originally it did name GTHP, but the company has since been removed from the lawsuit.
Cheers.
GetSeriousOK
2 months ago
See, you never answer a question or defend your opinion. You don't engage in a discussion or debate. You just keep banging a pot and shouting nonsense.
"Your challenge" is for someone to slap the ask and drive the PPS from 15 cents to $1 or $3 or $5 without news. That's absurd. An increase to $1 is a 600% increase. How often do you think that happens in pennystock biotech? Without news, the answer is "never." Even with news, a 600% increase is uncommon. Your "respectable $5" would be a 3000% increase. And if that doesn't happen, this stock is dead and will never rise above 15 cents, in your opinion. That's what you've stated over and over, even when it does rise above 15 cents, and you'll keep shouting that until, when, the PPS hits $5.00 ?
Oh joy.
GetSeriousOK
2 months ago
LOL no the bearish sentiment is just you and the guy suing Shenghuo, and even HE shut up.
There's not much buying interest now, which is what you'd expect from a pennystock biotech this far under the radar. The China news isn't fooling anyone, although we all might be surprised some day when SMI sends a check.
There's going to be buying interest, IMO, when they finish the clinical trial, submit the amended PMA, and get FDA approval. You just don't see many penny biotechs with odds this good. And every penny biotech gets manipulated once in awhile and spikes -- if that happens before the real news arrives, I'll take some profits and laugh all the way to the bank.
Of course it's still a gamble. It's a penny biotech. You don't have the stomach for it, fine, stay on the sidelines and shake your fists and curse the darkness. But don't fool yourself into thinking anyone is listening to you or cares what you say. Sorry, but you lost all credibility when you claimed the CEO stole all the money, they'd never start US clinicals, and the Directors didn't even exist -- and even worse, you used multiple aliases to simulate a fake conversation.
GetSeriousOK
2 months ago
Just another lie. You'll never go away. More likely, you'll create a THIRD alias and have a FUD circle-jerk.
If you had something of substance to say here, fine, we could debate, but you don't. You just complain because a penny stock with no news doesn't skyrocket.
Let's get this straight -- you claim that "real buyers" could drive this stock from 15 cents to $5 with no news. 15 cents to $5. Over 3000% increase. On no news.
You've seen this happen before in the stock market, EVER? Name the ticker. Remember: there can't have been any news.
I've seen the occasional rare 3000% increase, but only on pennystocks that were beaten down and got unexpected news. With GTHP the news is expected and it's not beaten down at 15 cents - -that's the resulting price from the last R/S.
You lost money on GTHP after that last FDA rejection and resulting death spiral R/S, and it made you feel bad about yourself. You're holding a grudge and it makes you feel a little bit better about yourself to try and make others feel bad today. Well, news flash, I lost money on that last FDA rejection, but I didn't feel bad about myself then and I don't feel bad now. That's the pennystock biotech game we're playing: high risk, high rewards.
I sold right after the FDA rejection because that's how to play this game -- take your loss and move on. I stayed away when they sank into death spiral financing, but somehow Cartwright chased the toxic lender moneychangers out of the temple and pulled the company out of the death spiral. Now THERE's a thing I've never seen before. So I'm back in, and I expect to make money on this stock, although $5 per share is ludicrous even with PMA approval.
You couldn't handle the risk -- no shame in that. Not everyone can handle the risks of gambling on penny biotech. You should buy ETF's instead. And if you stop your mindless childish bashing of GTHP, you might actually get over your losses and start feeling better about yourself.
BTW, Auctus filed their annual Valentines' Day 13G. They hold more today than they held last year, even after they dumped their ill-gotten shares last June.