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Yup, I stand with what I told docsetc a year ago:

Those who have warned and voiced concerns have been attacked for years on this platform so it doesn't bother me, it's actually provided a valuable lesson in OTC trading. What I don't respect are those still stating blatant speculative mistruths, based on previous ENZC PRs or TWEETS with no real evidence.

Another in the revisiting docsetc's 1 year ago change from attacking anyone that dare say anything negative about ENZC to slowly starting to understand that he had been scammed for 4 years. I will be posting 1 year anniversaries of his posts. This is one of the last pure "defend with all his might" posts from Terry! Watch as Terry finally learns!

June 16, 2024
Still no proof it was a well-engineered scam..... Plenty of other evidence they really had something going on https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174598559

Now we all know that he isn't really perusing a lawsuit, but if he did, wouldn't be great to have him up on stand as a defense witness, and have him read all his statements like this where he defended the company? lol

Why bother responding at all if you are going to avoid the topic and post an off topic, almost random reply?

What in the topic has anything to do with coaching? Why would the topic of coaching have anything to do with responding to the topic of your track record of insulting people who were right on this all along (still with no apologies)? Why would anyone think anyone would be jealous of you given your total wrong views on ENZC in the last 4 years? Jealousy of your ignorance on how to spot an obvious scam? No!

At least you were smart enough to let my post go without responding! lol

This my friend, is stinky cologne!
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Coaching a Stinky-Pinky scam too. Congratulations.

Hey HomeB. Obviously you've never coached. You've got to play every angle. But, hey, what do I know. 11 conference championships, 3 state titles, working with international teams, and, a robost portfolio. To all responders, just remember, jealousy is a stinky cologne. Have a great day everyone and good luck!
Cheers,
Coach

Remember "hamptonite" that was buying enzc shares for charity. And he would get the secret service after bashers. All part of the plan. Right coach?

I could only try to talk sense to you people but can't give you the education to understand these obvious red flags. Yes, your losses are YOUR fault not managements! You ignored these obvious signs and hundreds more!!

August 2022:

I ask the question, how many vague, meaningless terms will shareholders accept from the company before they see through the bull? The answer appears to be this many, and the many more to come!

Hasn't "days and weeks ahead" taught shareholders anything?

No one can see that "ongoing and near completion" it just as meaningless and vague?

No one can see that "finalizing" is just as meaningless and vague?

How about " testing and use of the therapeutics are expected to be made possible ", and just as hilarious "plans are in place to proceed"? Now there's something you can hang your hat onto, right? LOL Yet they are quoted on this very board as if they were progress! This is beyond ridiculous!

NOT ONE shareholder will stand up and say date "xxxx" is the latest date that those meaningless phrases can mean! It was attempted back after the "days and weeks ahead" to say it meant 2 months max, which then was conveniently taken back... after 2 months. lol

I'll tell you, this company knows how to string along shareholders. If I didn't read the words, I'd say "no this is fiction, they don't really believe this. It's an act"

As I have said, there is a price for wearing blinders and not seeing plain in your face bull from the company. That price is a declining stock price!

Wishing, hoping and dreaming, while ignoring the reality of the failures of this company is NOT a valid investing strategy!

WE WILL SEE LOWER PRICES! Markets teach expensive lessons..


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Scammers/pumpers sometimes like to play "victim" so that the gullibles won't think they were accomplices.

"I lost money too".

They hope it makes them seem like regular investors and might give them credibility for the next Pump-N-Dump

Does this sound like someone who thinks "Holding in the OTC is a fools errand"?

This was said at about 8.5 cents, down from 90 cents!
I added today as well. Slow and steady wins the race! Stick with the plan!
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Or how about this from 7/22 at about 6.5 cents, isn't 1-2 years the very definition of "holding in the OTC"?:
I believe in the science here and think within the next year or two there will be some good things happening. Patience
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It really is amazing when these long time permabulls come back and try to jump on "well this decline and outcome was expected" bandwagon. @Mutat did the same thing recently! And they all have "gains" despite buying again and again on the way down. Who are you fooling?

I take back the credit I gave you in the last post. Yet another revisionist pumper who now, only in retrospect, "knew" this wasn't an investment! At least fools like Terry are not coming back here trying to say this was not a good long term investment. In a way you are more ridiculous than him.

What were you trying to accomplish with today's post, given your post history is here for all to see?

Quite the flip compared to your cheerleading and insults to "bashers" in the past.
And don't blame what you call "bashers" for you failing to have metrics or a plan. They are just stating facts and facts are a stubborn thing.

Considering you were an ENZC bull this take is very realistic. You've hit on a lot of key points, yet I don't recall many or any of these truths from you when it mattered. For instance "Holding in the OTC is a fools errand.", which is 100% correct of course. I haven't looked at all your old posts but I am willing to bet you never stood up and said this during the 2021-23 time frame.

I remember you from years past, you were certainly not one of the extreme whackos here, but I did look back and see this lipstick on a pig attempt in trying to knockdown my factual post about the 2 year decline in ENZC. A lot of denial and alternative reality there!

Perhaps you've come around some more in the past year or so, unlike most here. Good luck.

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Waiting for a plane out of Denver and thought I would check on this one for fun. Haven't played a lot in the OTC in my years but had a good time with ENZC. Played the initial pump, traded for a year or so. Rolled the rest out during the SPAC pump. The final "free" shares I sold bought me a number 3 with a large drink!
This one is dead. I don't believe for a minute that there is a law suit. Anyone that gave personal information to someone that they met here is foolish. And don't blame what you call "bashers" for you failing to have metrics or a plan. They are just stating facts and facts are a stubborn thing. I'm sorry for those who have lost money. I have lost money in the past too. Learn from it, move on and develop a strategy. Pumper is right that you protect the capital. Move that out when you're ahead and trade the freebies. Holding in the OTC is a fools errand. I wish everyone luck with the other ventures they may be involved in. Stay positive. Keep grinding. Have fun and don't take any shit from anyone!
Cheers,
Coach

Remember this gem?!

Hey DRHUMI, these guys will disappear or whine about excuses for Chandra, as soon as we have him served, which won't be long from now. Hope it's on the same day he takes Adnexus public. The law firm said it would be fantastic timing if we're able to do that. I intend to try and get pics of him being served

Funny thing is, @DRHUMI and @docsetc both disappeared themselves, hahaha its official we need a Enzolytics movie.

He claimed there were 10 contributors and then one backed out due to my posts! i will try to find the post and edit this post with the link

Did he get "donations" to fund the fake lawsuit. Personal names, addresses, account info ?

Lol these guys are afraid to ask dcosetc for updates, because he will cut off communication 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

In reality, who cares because the lawsuit was fake!

What's he doing with all the personal info he collected with his fake "lawsuit" scheme.

Where's the "lawsuit"?🤣😂

Seriously how funny is this given his obsessive interest in this when he never even qualified ever for the right to convert? Yet he thinks he was scammed! Unbelievable.

SAFEs rely on a future equity financing round for conversion. If the company fails to raise funds or achieve a liquidity event, the SAFE may not convert, leaving investors with no equity.

The biggest defender of the company's science is someone with zero drug development knowledge and zero ownership in the stock!! LOVE it!!!

These are questions ANY reasonable knowledgeable investor would have the answer to before buying in.

How about this at least. Have you ever seen these issues mentioned before or are these topics that i just came up with that are unimportant?

The information you posted doesn't address these issues. You like to question when i say the losses are your fault. if you cannot answer these basic issues to the drug development then it demonstrates again why your losses are your fault!

I showed you all the information that I had received from the Cotropias.

which was pure BS, congrats you got duped. Along with the rest of us, except you had no investment in ENZC lol good luck trying to recoup from the "SAFE" or should I say, not so safe.

Specific risks of investing in a SAFE:
Uncertain Conversion Event: SAFEs rely on a future equity financing round for conversion. If the company fails to raise funds or achieve a liquidity event, the SAFE may not convert, leaving investors with no equity.
Limited Control: SAFE investors generally have no voting rights or say in company decisions.
Potential for High Dilution: While SAFEs may have valuation caps and discounts, investors can still be diluted if the company raises more funding or issues additional SAFEs.
Risk of Total Loss: If the startup fails, SAFE investors could lose their entire investment. (THIS IS YOU)
SEC warnings: The SEC has issued warnings about investing in SAFEs, cautioning that they may not be as "safe" as the name suggests.

As you've been told for the 100th time, maybe you'll get it soon.

I don't have to explain anything in my own words. You and your buddies have asserted that I invested without getting any information, and I showed you all the information that I had received from the Cotropias.

Tell us exactly what you think it means and the importance of successful invitro testing as far as probability of it being a workable approvable drug.

After that, explain your take on the probability of difficulty or delay in creating a successful CHO cell line, using your knowledge and research. Tell us all you already know about developing a CHO cell line. And your views on the level of difficulty of reaching that?

Then explain your view on the cell line secreting non-biologically active recombinant antibody, and the difficulties involved.

Use all of your drug industry knowledge and tell us. Don't just copy and paste words you don't understand. Explain the above in your own words.

The following information was provided by the Cotropias as part of their Wefunder offering:

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For the following reasons, we expect the human antibody Clone 3 to be an effective an immuotherapeutic treatment for individuals with HIV/AIDS.

In Vitro Testing Has Demonstrated the Neutralizing Capability of Our Monoclonal Antibody Clone 3

The ability of HIV to mutate renders anti-retroviral therapies ineffective against HIV in many cases. Because the Company's monoclonal antibody therapy targets a portion of the virus that does not change, such mutations are not expected to affect the monoclonal antibody therapy.

Significant testing demonstrates the basis for this expectation. Specifically, in in vitro tests conducted in five independent laboratories, Clone 3 has been tested against 41 clinical HIV isolates (strains) of the virus. Clone 3 has demonstrated that it successfully neutralizes 37 of them (100% effective against 92% of the HIV strain against which it was tested).

Clone 3 neutralizes the Clade B isolate that is predominate in North America and Europe. Clone 3 has also demonstrated the ability to neutralize the Clade C isolate found in Africa, China and India. In view of these test results, the Company is moving forward with animal trials to establish Clone 3 as a significant means for treatment of those that have HIV.

The lab results quoted were the product of testing in 5 independent laboratories. In tests conducted at the University of California of San Francisco (by Jay Levy, M.D.), Clone 3 Antibody was shown to have in vitro neutralization effect against geographically distinct clinical HIV (primary) isolates. Research conducted at four additional international institutes has confirmed these results of in vitro neutralization. In total, the neutralizing capabilities of Clone 3 have been verified at the following 5 laboratories:

1. University of California, San Francisco, CA, USA (Jay Levy, M.D.)
2. University of South Florida, Tampa, FL, USA (Kenneth Ugen, Ph.D.)
3. Polymun Scientific, GmbH, Vienna, AUSTRIA, (Hermann Katinger, Ph.D.)
4. Duke University, Durham, NC, USA (David Montefiori, Ph.D.)
5. Dana Farber Cancer Institute (DFCI), Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA, USA, (Ruth Ruprecht, M.D., Ph.D.)

In these tests, Clone 3 neutralized [at IC90] 37 of 41 (>90%) of the clinical HIV-1 group M, N, and O isolates. Clone 3 neutralized 3 of 3 group O HIV isolates tested at 10 µg/ml in PBMC-based assay. In another study of Clone 3 tested against one group N primary HIV-1 isolate, results indicated that the IC90 for Clone 3 versus the HIV primary isolate YBF30 was 3.72 µg/ml. Further, Clone 3 has also been demonstrated to effectively neutralize 4 of 4 virulent pediatric South African clade C isolates [ZA349, ZA562, ZA600, ZA737]; and at 10 µg/ml, neutralize [IC99] a pediatric Zambian clade C HIV-1157, as well as the simian immunodeficiency virus construct SHIV-1157ip. Therefore, of the 45 HIV isolates against which Clone 3 has been tested, it neutralized 41 (over 91%).
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It seems that the Cotropias provided a good amount of of data in the above information.

Furthermore, between 2017 and 2020, the Cotropias had success in creating the recombinant form of the monoclonal antibody. The recombinant form is the form that is mass produced. They showed that the antibody could be mass produced.

The Cotropias were raising money for animal and human trials on the recombinant form. As far as I know, the animal and human trials have not taken place yet.

Stop it! You're hitting on many of the common pink sheet themes in a day! You are going to overload their brains!

Here is a fact to remember - 95-97% of all patents have no commercial value.

In the top 10 of pink sheet pumps is patents. Most pink sheet investors think patents validate the marketability of the product. Of course a patent means nothing in that regard. A patent doesn't even mean a product WORKS or has potential to work! It doesn't matter, as OTC investors don't understand patents. They flock to companies PRing patents like moths to light!

It really is a waste of time trying to educate TJ. But I'd love to challenge any ENZC pumper in this way. I will put up $20,000 in cash, if you put up $5,000 in cash, and can then demonstrate you've ever researched what percentage of drugs that are in lab testing, and then make it into a fully approved drug. Yes, this is the most basic of due diligence, yet these fools don't know and don't want to know. But of course the assumption is, despite having next to zero drug test reading knowledge, that THESE small handful of drugs by ENZC are going to magically be the exception. This again is insanity, pure and simple.

The lack of periodic test data published in PRs, over YEARS, is red flag number 1,032. But, hey Panther is bullish, and Chandra is working hard in silence, and that's all that matters, right? lol

Thanks

You wrote: "From 2017 to 2020, the Cotropias gave enough facts to make me believe that the anti-HIV monoclonal antibody *could* succeed in animal trials and human trials."

How did you verify the Cotropia's facts - any real pharmaceutical company would always do FDA approved clinical trials.

Instead what you are calling facts was more hype/pumping. That is why fake OTC pharmaceutical companies always claim to be doing clinical trials in such places as Africa and Bulgaria.

Here is a fact to remember - 95-97% of all patents have no commercial value. The ENZC patents didn't have any commercial value. Plus when you file Provisional Patent you can use the term patent pending and you don't have to submit any what the USPTO call prior art and you have 12 months to file a non-provisional patent.

ENZC never had any IP of any value.

You need to have a better understanding of the OTC before investing - although the OTC is for trading not investing.

Here is my advice to all OTC investors.

The only way to trade penny stocks that use message boards, social media (Twitter - Facebook), forward looking press releases, pumping 8-Ks and paid promotions is to just consider them all to be scams and just trade them do not invest in them. You'll lose 99% of the time if you believe the hype.

IG

Not odd at all. Again, the case is about one thing. It's not about ENZC as a company at all. It's about Zhabilov selling restricted shares (that he legally owned) years ago. So, it makes perfect sense that there is nothing in the complaint about Cotropia. Simple, because he didn't sell restricted shares.

In fact, it would be reasonable to think that either Chandra or Cotropia went to the SEC with their knowledge of Zhabilov selling his shares to get back at him for canning them, and that's what started this whole thing. There is no way the SEC is looking at ENZC stock transactions from the 2021-2 era, in 2024 unless someone tipped them off. This case is not about "investigations", it's about pink sheet execs turning on each other, which is VERY common, and part of the fun of watching this insanity.

The odd part to me is that Cotropia et el are not included in the complaint against Zhabilov etc.

Which leads me to believe that Cotropia was duped by Zhabilov and Cotropia was nothing more than a puppet.

You are by far the most knowledgeable about the ENZC scam - do you have any thoughts on why Cotropia wasn't included in Complaint filed against Zhabilov?

IG

Simple concept. If they were guilty of any criminal offense, show us the arrest, show us the charges!

You have very little understanding of the law (as well as investing). You have a silly idea that scamming is illegal. There are no criminal charges, nor will there ever be. There are zero legal actions against the company, from shareholders or the SEC. Not even a civil case! You rant about criminality and illegal actions by the company... show me the damn cases, show me the damn charges (which by the way, even if they existed, they'd then have to succeed and be proven)! It doesn't take years to file a damn case.

The reason why you have Terry creating a fake lawsuit is that even lowly Terry knows there is no case, otherwise it would have been filed, a YEAR ago!

If the execs could read your posts claiming they are criminals, I'd love to see them sue you for defamation! Maybe Terry's attorneys could defend you? lol

This is getting old. I keep trying to explain the same simple concepts, but you keep bringing up these things again and again. If you are right show me the damn cases!

His entire investing due diligence can be summarized this way:

Positives are assumed. Lack of data supporting a positive does not have the be presented in order for it to be assumed true. Positives are simply accepted as fact unless directly proven otherwise.

Meanwhile a negative cannot be deducted based on lack of evidence of positives. A negative will only be accepted as true if there is specific direct data released verifying a negative!

The problem is, anyone with any experience in OTC pinks KNOWS that is a rare, very rare, that these companies ever reveal anything negative, unless forced to.

It is impossible to be a successful investor if the above is what you do, period!

There is a price for this insanity ...... losses! The above is exactly why your losses are your fault TJ!

I will try to find time. Can't do it on my phone.

We still have no idea whether the antibody will succeed in animal trials or human trials.

We? Who is we? .. it looks like you’re the only one on this board currently keeping up the lie that there’s data and science behind any of the 3 C’s. PROVE IT

"Most OTC investor only believe the hype and ignore the facts."

From 2017 to 2020, the Cotropias gave enough facts to make me believe that the anti-HIV monoclonal antibody *could* succeed in animal trials and human trials.

If the Cotropias enticed people to invest into BioClonetics and later ENZC by dangling the antibody in front of the investors, and if the Cotropias later took the antibody out of ENZC, then the Cotropias committed fraud.

We still have no idea whether the antibody will succeed in animal trials or human trials.

Where do you get that I am defending ENZC?

You and pumper stumper are the ones saying that the ENZC executives should not receive any criminal or civil penalties for scamming people. You two are blaming the victims of the scam.

"Your honor, it was the fault of the people I scammed that they got scammed. It is their fault that they're stupid. I should not go to jail." --- This is what you and pumper stumper believe.

You lost $200 and you are still defending ENZC and not accepting any responsibility for not doing any real DD and believing the hype.

Madoff was a weasel and got caught - and was sentenced to 150 years.

I don't approve of scammers that is why I work to expose them.

If as you believe - "Your honor, it was the fault of the people I scammed that they got scammed. It is their fault that they're stupid. I should not go to jail." why did I work to expose the ENZC scam.

I was talking to young real estate developer that had made millions - he told me - "no balls no blue chips" which means in order to get high-value results or rewards, you need to take risks or have the guts to go for it and blue chips are high value chips in poker. 2 years later he took a big risk and filed for Bankruptcy - because he thought he was 10 feet tall and bullet proof.

In business or investing examine the downside and the upside will take care of itself.

IG

Exactly right!!! One of my favorite sayings is capital preservation is a fundamental investing concept in the financial world..... except in the OTC Pinks where it's most needed.

You can always count on seeing a "it's too late to sell" post in a destroyed OTC.

Once again people can do whatever they want but there is a price or ignoring common sense and prudent basic financial concepts. People cannot be rewarded for dismissing common sense. So it's rewarding when you see the results when capital preservation is not practiced, like here! Learn or lose, it's that simple! The market doesn't care which you chose, and has no problem teaching lessons through losses.

Any sophisticated investors know when to cut their losses - but most OTC investors hang on and watch their investment disappear.

The OP didn't state: "scamming people is simply part of capitalism?

So, you believe that Madoff should not have gone to prison?"

My take is if you blindly invest on the OTC and don't do any research/DD - your losses are on you.

In the future stay away from OTC companies that claim to be in the Pharmaceutical business but aren't a SEC filer - because it is guaranteed to be a share selling scheme.

Did docsetc ever post any photos of the Texas A&M lab he claimed to visit?

Also any real pharmaceutical company would engage in FDA approved clinical trials.

IG

Most OTC investor only believe the hype and ignore the facts.

Any sophisticated investors know when to cut their losses - but most OTC investors hang on and watch their investment disappear.

IG

Dude it takes 2 to tango.
So, to you, scamming people is simply part of capitalism? Madoff was guilty of fraud, and deserved jail.

His investors were guilty of foolishly believing in returns that were too good to be true.

They believed they were the smarter-than-everyone-else chosen-ones - so yeah, some would say they deserved losses, which amazingly they never had to suffer during the belief-stage.

Whatever - get over yourself & Madoff - why not hold docsetc accountable for his fraud?

After all, this is the $ENZC board

#seeyouatthetop!

Being rewarded for being a smart investor is part of capitalism. Being punished for ignoring those that called out the scam years ago, and instead clinging to hope instead of logic, and for participating in known lies about lawsuits is natural.

Do you know of any legitimate company who's listed corporate email wasn't working for nearly a year, so that shareholders couldn't even email the company with questions? Yet without a word about it from the company? That alone wasn't enough of a sign for you? I'm sure you either made excuses for why that was okay, or, you were clueless that it happened.

You didn't miss one thing, you (and most here) missed/dismissed HUNDREDS of signs this was a scam.... for years! You cannot be rewarded for that!

You don't have a choice as to whether you like this or not. This is how markets work, always have and always will. Learn or be financially punished. That is the one thing that you do have a choice in. But, blaming others for your losses is 180 degrees from taking responsibility, and will result in more losses. There are several from this board that have moved on and suffered even more punishment in other scams!!! That's the price for not accepting blame and not educating themselves

Many don't have these skills. FINE! Understand it and don't attempt to buy individual stocks, and certainly be smart enough to not buy a pink sheet!!

So, to you, scamming people is simply part of capitalism?

So, you believe that Madoff should not have gone to prison?

Yeah, what do you say @Homebrew @Timing101 (Mr. Link), @archilles (lol), @SeniorApollo?

Can some moderator please remove much of the intro to this board? Much of it is based on divisions/potential products that don't exist any longer, and is very out of date. A link to the SEC case against the principal owner should be added.

The entire financial system is based on investors being rewarded for good due diligence, and punished for being ignorant of basic facts, and for spinning good into any news, or absence of news (a specialty of you and others here).

Capitalism wouldn't exist without this.

Imagine a world where people were rewarded for investing without adequate skills and knowledge?

Those that do not accept responsibility for their investing faults will make the same mistake again. I see zero acceptance of responsibility here by you and most others here.

"You have to accept the responsibilities of your losses from not doing any real DD and believing the hype."

Gee, maybe Bernie Madoff should have had you as his defense attorney.

"Your honor, it was the fault of the people I scammed that they got scammed. It is their fault that they're stupid. I should not go to jail."

When you find a pinky pharmaceutical company that doesn't report to the SEC and does clinical trials in Africa or Bulgaria that aren't FDA approved it is quaranteed to be a share selling scheme.

You are responsible for being so naive and gullible to ignore the facts and believe the hype it is a you problem. As ENZC was an obvious scam from the beginning. I (as well as others) warned shareholders the SAGA deal was fake - again that is your problem.

And the nonsense the major pumpers were spewing (MAGA, docsetc, BonnieMac) and they were pumping their ass off.

Then docsetc started to path the way to extract more money from shareholders - but several of us exposed the fake lawsuit scam.

You have to accept the responsibilities of your losses from not doing any real DD and believing the hype.
So you don't blame management for scamming people? Just the people that were victims of it? Glad you're not a judge. This wasn't as cut and dry as you make this out to be.
No Pumper-Stumper was 100% accurate in stating that it is the shareholders problem - even now you are blaming everyone but yourself.

IG

Well said!!!!

And, how old is this shit getting?

And if you ever fall for the old message-board tropes that "shorty / paid bashers want your shares" or "MMs are manipulating & preventing a rise" then you DO deserve to lose it all.

I bet I can find THOUSANDS of posts like that on this board, most from one person here. I can count the number of shareholders that ever challenged that insanity on one hand! Want to talk about deserved losses??

I'm directly blaming every shareholder that has losses here, including you, for your losses! The signs of this scam have been obvious for YEARS! The fact is, you shouldn't be investing in OTC, and more definitely in an OTC "drug company"

You want to tell me you have the education and detailed knowledge of the drug industry to have been able to tell anything this company was "working on" was a viable drug candidate? I'll answer the question, no, you don't and not even close. Instead, rely on anonymous posters on a message board, who also don't have such knowledge and have no track record for any successful investing, and follow their opinions instead, simply because they are bullish like you, and expect to be rewarded for doing this? No!

Did you take a single minute to look at my ten year history of exposing scams here, and how every single one of my frequently posted stocks are down 99% or more, except for the more recent ones, who haven't had the time to lose 99% yet? This, while the market as a whole is up by multiples in that period? I'll answer... you didn't.

You need someone to point out to you that ANY drug company in history that has ever developed and testing a drug that have reached the market has hundreds or thousands of scientists working for them? And instead you think 5 people, one of whom was banned from practicing medicine, another who sued his father to take the "drug" his father developed 20 freakin years ago as his only "success", and another having not a single verifiable success in the drug industry in his life, are going to create and get a viable drug approved? This kind of thinking is insanity. You cannot be rewarded for insanity. THIS is YOUR fault, not the managements fault.

This is like saying someone put up a sign at the edge of a cliff saying "jump", and you jumped off it, and now you want to blame the person putting up the sign! NO! How about common sense?

The fact is that 99% of OTC investors NEVER learn, because like you, they don't learn and see how their losses were their own faults. By blaming management, you'll just go out and make the same mistake again.

Your fellow-ihubbers were attacked for trying to help.

Those of us who've been around, and can see thru the BS, make honest efforts to prevent naive retail from being scammed by criminal OTC managements & their enablers on message boards who coax others to buy & hold, often while they themselves are either dumping.

Either those pumpers are dumping, or they're plain dumb for believing. Why would you listen to them?

And if you ever fall for the old message-board tropes that "shorty / paid bashers want your shares" or "MMs are manipulating & preventing a rise" then you DO deserve to lose it all.

Put others on ignore only if you enjoy flying blind.

GL w the next one!