prototype_101
6 years ago
Steve, while the decentralized data or ant farm concept of data storage sounds better from the perspective of eliminating the monopoly style data kings like google so they can't take advantage of our data, our habits, our privacy, I have some questions
1) what happens if individual nodes go dark, people's phones and computers get shut down at night etc?
2) what happens if individuals change/upgrade devices, will data be lost if not transferred properly to newer devices?
3) how is data redundancy built into a decentralized network?
4) is speed of data flow compromised by running through these individual nodes?
5) if this is supposed to replace the internet, what happens to individuals who just want to access data but not be farmers?
Thinking about buying a few just to have some action in the world of cryptos
SteveSchiets
6 years ago
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As others have noted we ( crypto ) often drop late / early in the year.
Imo anytime before spring when new money tends to pile in.
While we could drop in a correction.
I think we could have had out dip when we hit low 30s / high 29s cent us prices.
We may not see another big dip till after another influx.
Only time will tell.
People are gonna get burnt though.
Ive been telling ppl about maid for years but yet some have bought ripple. Not one ive ever liked.
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Michael_Hills
23h
? jeremyjpj0916:
Also if you look at the crypto market traditionally from Dec to Jan the last 4ish years you will see a pump in DEC and a decline in Jan
I think weโve reached a new plateau. People say that crypto has become mainstream. And this might be true to some degree. But I think there is still a long way to go, and a lot more money to come, and a lot more people showing up.
I think the upward trend will last a while longer. Itโs not quite time for disillusionment in any particular coin, at least not yet.
This is a young, exciting, wild market, full of dreamers wanting to cash out at BTC prices.
It will take some time for the great fall to begin. I do see another big surge coming, if the over inflated stock market has a tumble.
People will see crypto as a safe-haven for their dollars.
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Future
23h
Which price do you expect on Safecoinโs launch?
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Aquaphobia
23h
Hard to say, but probably around 30 euros. Maybe a bit more. Of course it would be a dream if he stood at 100 euros on the day of launch.
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jeremyjpj0916
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I am gonna have to respectfully disagree here. I donโt classify rising speculation/price as adaption. The day I can go to a chain grocery store and pay with crypto currency without using some new trendy 3rd party company handling the crypto<-> fiat conversion then I will say we are mainstream ? . I always liked this pic below to sum it up best when we will know if its mainstream yet or not haha. I am also skeptical about crypto being the safe-haven, I personally think if stock market crashes people will take their gains in crypto out as well thus hurting the market out of pure fear. I do believe crypto would fair better though in a recession and bounce back nicely.
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Hagyomanyos
16h
Hereโs a question: Are there any factors, primarily stemming from Safecoinโs future use in the Safe Network economy, that could potentially hinder it from reaching values in the hundreds or thousands of dollars? For example, the possibility that it may not be divisible?
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tobbetj
15h
As i understand from alot of topic discussions, it will be divisble. I think that the value of all data and transactions that will be stored and take place on the network will give it great value. I think of similarities to google. that their data is very valuable and so will all the secure data stored on the safe network also be valuable. Data is recognised as an asset class by world economic forum.
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Sotros25
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Which price do you expect on Safecoinโs launch?
Hereโs one potential way of thinking about it with quick, back-of-the-envelope math. Letโs say the year is 2025 and 163 zettabytes of data are created that year. Assume that 1 billion Safecoin are in existence and that the SAFEnetwork has captured 5% of data storage market share. In such a scenario, one Safecoin could hypothetically buy 8.15 TB. Today you can get a TB of storage for ~$50. Even though I expect that by 2025 youโll be able to get a TB of storage for far less, Iโm going to hold the price constant for the security and reliability the SAFEnetwork provides. As @Hagyomanyos noted,
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data is very valuable and so will all the secure data stored on the safe network also be valuable.
According to the assumptions above, the value of one Safecoin would be something like ~$400.
Now, if there are only 800M Safecoin in existence, then the price per coin would be ~$500. Similarly, if the SAFEnetwork has captured 10% of newly created storage, then the price would be ~$800 with 1B Safecoin in existence, or ~$1000 with 800M Safecoin in existence.
Perhaps the price of Safecoin at launch will reflect the potential value as it grows towards steady state with respectable market share capture. Also, I think the amount of data each Safecoin would/could need to store underscores just how important divisibility is unless Safecoins are burned and farmed at a blistering rate.
In general, I think these price estimates are supremely conservative because they donโt take into account all the other uses for Safecoin beyond data storage. Moreover, I should hope that circulation of 1B Safecoin would reflect a world in which the SAFEnetwork has captured at least 25% of the data storage market. Then weโd be talking a price ~$2000 per coin. ?
SteveSchiets
6 years ago
That correction can't come soon enough because I want to buy more. Mack, I do agree the market cap is pretty high. But if you are trying to get an 2.0 internet without servers. Creating a network with an infrastructure for developers who create apps and websites. Plus getting paid for it using the Safemaid network. Due to using it you open up your network (cellphone, energy, storage, wifi, 4G), that's why you get paid in coins.
Nick Lambert (MAIDSafe) at IOT//EDI Nov, 2016 (at that time the safecoin was 7 cents)
This should be a good podcast with regards to valuation. I still need to listen.
https://soundcloud.com/safecrossroads/ep-34-whats-to-profit-with-nick-lambert
Were is that correction/crash? My first goal for the long term is 5000 coins. I only have 850 coins now. I think we should really look closely if a crash happens in general. I'm sure the majority of the coins will take a very big hit or even get vanished. Safecoin will hold up pretty good, imo. A lot of believers in there. Quality will survive.
SteveSchiets
6 years ago
from 2016. Damn if only I knew back then.
https://www.alexfortin.com/top-5-crypto-currencies-invest-2016/
Maidsafe has been around for quite a while now. 10 years exactly and they finally launch their Alpha MVP this week. Maidsafe is a decentralize database.
Instead of storing data on your computer, with maidsafe you can encrypt and upload it on the decentralise server. That way no one person can access your data without your permission. It is 100% secure and it doesnt use any space.
This decentralise database will make it possibe for whistle blower to share information without having the fear of seeing the governement or other group censor them. It is the internet uncensored.
Again, the people behind maidsafe are real geniuses. When you listen to them, you know that their vision is the future. I am so excited to have the safenet working. Once the safenet goes live the crypto-currency behind their project should skyrocket to the moon. It already went 10x over the past few months but thats nothing compare to what is coming.
Maidsafe has the capacity to revoluionize the internet as we know it. They are really amazing. Only people in the crypto-world know them because they are in Alpha, but as soon as they are live ( a few months) You will see them on every newspaper.
Right now you can only purchase their temporary coins called MaidSafeCoin. Im not sure how the exchange process will work so that is the only thing stopping me from investing heavily in this one.
Current Market Cap: $46,466,724
Price: $0.10 US
Prediction: once they go live, their price will sky rocket to a few dollars for sure. I really think they can revolutionize the internet so their price should reflect that in the long term. 600$ in a few years.