abix mate i've drunk too much to debate all that except to say that yes gigsy is vital (god if he was playing for england he'd be one of the nominations for world/european player of yr) but utd are more than one player and he does suffer with a lot of calf problems because of heavy pitches so he will always miss a fair few games.........the problem we still have is to put out the same side consistently and keeping those left out happy eg andy cole.....and of course the defence
abix i'm going to bed mate and i'll catch u tomorrow if u can keep up with all these footie threads