Agree over HHO and langbar but there were much greater risks involved. HHO had major financial problems and langbar could not pursuade the market that there was money their hence trading at discount to nav.
Ult has major prospects for next year. Agreed that it will take time and patients and there will be alot of variation with the price, but I am convinced ULT will make it along with alot of people waiting on the lines.
ULT have an outstanding product and with abit of research you will be able to see into it. Good luck with your shorts anyway!