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Rsv Shareholder's Action Group
JakNife - Tue, 30 Dec 03 :
Karma Sooty, re post 777,
“You may think that you are safe and anonymous on here but when the Serious Fraud Squad start asking questions someone will give you up to save themselves.”
If I could be bothered I would direct you to where I’ve already explained that I’m not in any way connected to the MMs. It therefore naturally follows (if you apply elementary logic), that I have no need of your advice. There is NOBODY to “give me up”. I’m here to discuss RSV, I have been genetically programmed to debate. If you don’t wish to debate RSV then you will understand why I will ignore your posts.
MikeDP
“Can you please give us your opinion as to the likely outcome if a poll were conducted at PaulyPilots Pub and/or other frequently used boards at TMF, on the polling facility at iii or on this board (if there is a poll facility) along the following lines? (What approximately do you think the answer would be?)”
I’d expect MikeDP that the vast majority of the posters would express concern, just like here, and just as with Marconi where shareholders still complain that “they’ve been cheated”. People always complain when they lose money and human nature apparently automatically causes them to seek to blame others rather than accept responsibility for their own actions. But what if you were to ask the exact same poll to the debt holders? There would be an obvious conflict of opinion. Whose opinion is the more relevant?
The law is clear that shareholders rank behind debt holders. Every time that there is a debt for equity swap there are a bunch of shareholders complaining. Yet the entire point of the stock market is to syndicate equity risk – to share profits AND LOSSES. If a company makes a loss then shareholders SHARE in that loss. In your example it’s even more clear – the debt for equity swap has been announced, people are fully aware of what’s happening to the company. They have a choice to buy OR to NOT BUY. Nobody’s hiding the facts from them that there’s about to be a materially dilutive D4E swap and nobody is forcing them to buy share, they exercise their own free will. It’s their choice.
“When we have the answer I will explain why I ask and why I believe it is relevant if you dont already know.”
Are you trying to test me Mike? I know why it’s relevant, because the definition of market abuse is a test of the regular user of the marker. As I’ve already pointed out to Anomalous, the FSA recently consulted the “regular users of the market” to ask them what they consider market abuse. The comment is available on the FSA’s website.
Agincourt
This action is not contrary to any law or to any explicit LSE trading rules.
“But it is.”
Given your mistaken comments before on when a share purchase becomes a share member and thus entitled to vote you will understand why I express a certain amount of scepticism over any technical comment that you post. It strikes me that you are obviously not proficient in these matters.
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