these tow men you speak of appear to be paying 4m for netcentric systems which is a failed internet company with no assets other than approx 250k in cash surly clever men with big assets and big names should be able to get on to aim market without paying over 4m for a failed internet shell with distressed share holders looking to sell at first possibale chance. the price speaks for its self why should why should whiteknight52 pay 2.5 in placing by these clever men when you can buy on the market for 1.8 or less on the market, could i suggest albert that its you who is talking rubbish and not done your homework share price close today 1.6 bid 1.8 offered volume almost 2 million shares only thing i agree with you albert is that these are indeed 2 very clever men getting fools to pay 2.5 when they could buy in market for 1.8 and less i think the brokers supporting this fund raising at 2.5 have serious questions to answer about giving clients value.