Bazworld Re IDM ( sorry guys to be off topic) I had a contact who 'knew someone close to the company' who kept feeding me bullish info such as ' the factory is working flat out' and , (very very confidential )'They have signed a deal with Tarmac for them to market the concrete curing product throughout the world.After it all came out that this was rubbish , he turned round and said that his contact was no longere in touch with the company! There was agreat deal of false info given out, just as there was with OYS and TCN. PC was behind all three and it has totally destroyed my trust in the CS analysts.I bailed out of IDM at a considerable loss as I felt the money was better invested elswhere. I had a go at PC about all this and got precisely nowhere. This is I believe a cautionary tale for all those who have been taken in by PC's hype - and that does include a lot of institutions ! I have still not sold any of my OYS as I am convinced that this IS one for the future. That is based on my 20+ years in the pipework business. Seasons greetings to you all .....Ladron