You might see it like that but the endless optimism and ramping displayed here for months and months has clearly been based on nothing more than the fact that holders are desperate to see a price change around here so they can exit........I'm just doing my bit to provide an alternate (and more realistic) view.....maybe that's negative for you but you pays your money and takes your choice as they say....4-5% growth, do me a favour how are these guys ever going to taken seriously with that kind of performance from a minnow like this....oh and I see Mike Neville is still making money though....alright for some eh......btw, anyone topping up today then?