Gentlemen, sitting here catching up on your well informed comments the kids are now in bed and just about to open a bottle. I would like to thank you for all your posts which i have found to be continually informative and well based. My upmost thanks go to Hatto who i hope is enjoying his break i have found your posts extremely helpful, i also agree with your nap stocks. I wish you all a very happy new year and look foward to reading your posts throughout 2007 perhaps now i have a little more time i will be able to add something, all the best.