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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
after think about this good question, all the short had come long, yesterday as this was last day of trading for this stock.
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The Night Stalker The Night Stalker 15 years ago
now i understand where the anger and caps come from.


its so sad when companies screw over people like that
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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
YEWS, THEY SOLD US OUT TO LOW AND WE HAD TAKE BATH BECAUSE OF THE TURN THE LEADER OF THE COMPANY. THEY COULD GOTTEN TART MONEY AND BEBUILT THE BANK BUT THEY SOLD OUT AND TOOK CASK PAYMENT WITH THEM AND WE GOT NOTHING.
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The Night Stalker The Night Stalker 15 years ago
it appears you have hate towards NCC?


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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
IT OVER, THE PRICE OF NCC STOCK WAS SO LOW THAN PEOPLE COULD MAKE MONEY BUYING IT AND SELL THERE PNC STOCK.
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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
PNC Completes Acquisition of National City




PNC to report fourth quarter and full year 2008 earnings on Feb. 3

PITTSBURGH, Dec. 31 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The PNC Financial Services Group, Inc. (NYSE:PNC) announced today that it completed its acquisition of National City Corporation (NYSE:NCC).

National City stockholders will receive 0.0392 of a share of PNC common stock for each share of National City common stock based on the terms of the merger agreement, with any fractional share of PNC common stock paid in cash. Shares of National City will no longer be listed on the New York Stock Exchange.

National City branches will continue normal operations, and customers should continue to use National City's services as usual. PNC will provide comprehensive customer information prior to the conversion of National City branches, which will begin in the second half of 2009.

PNC also concluded its sale of $7.6 billion of preferred stock and warrants to the U.S. Treasury under the TARP Capital Purchase Program.

Additionally, PNC announced that it expects to issue financial results for the fourth quarter and full year 2008 on Tuesday, Feb. 3, 2009. PNC Chairman and Chief Executive Officer James E. Rohr and Chief Financial Officer Richard J. Johnson will hold a conference call for investors the same day at 9 a.m. (EST).

Live webcast and telephone conference options will be available.

Dial-in Numbers: (800) 990-2718 or (706) 643-0187 (international)

Internet: Live audio-only webcast accessible at http://www.pnc.com/investorevents

Replay Information: Available on PNC's Web site for 30 days, and via telephone for one week at (800) 642-1687 or (706) 645-9291, Conference ID 79677068.

Presentation Materials: Presentation slides, earnings release and supplementary financial information will be available on PNC's Web site http://www.pnc.com/investorevents prior to the beginning of the conference call


The PNC Financial Services Group, Inc. (http://www.pnc.com/) is one of the nation's largest diversified financial services organizations providing retail and business banking; specialized services for corporations and government entities, including corporate banking, real estate finance and asset-based lending; wealth management; asset management and global fund services.

DATASOURCE: The PNC Financial Services Group, Inc.


CONTACT: MEDIA, Brian Goerke, +1-412-762-4550,

, or INVESTORS, William H. Callihan,

+1-412-762-8257,


Web site: http://www.pnc.com/


Company News On-Call: http://www.prnewswire.com/comp/701257.html

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The Night Stalker The Night Stalker 15 years ago
looks as if money is coming back in NCC, lets see
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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
do not know. w should be pnc now.
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The Night Stalker The Night Stalker 15 years ago
today was a big volume spike, could it continue?
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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
goodby ncc. hello pnc.
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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
what on the bottom is the only way i could copy the information.
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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
US Treasury Rescue Funds
Help Spur Bank Mergers
Congress initially wanted some of the $700 billion financial
market rescue package to spur lending, but the U.S.
Treasury’s financing of the PNC Financial Services Group
(PNC) and National City Corp. (NCC) merger suggests the
bailout money may have opened the door for more bank
buyouts.
Prior to PNC’s announcement that it would acquire the
troubled National City Bank for about $5.2 billion, federal
regulators advised PNC it would be allowed to combine its
assets with National City’s for a capital injection and effectively
increase the amount of money it could receive,
according to a PNC filing with regulators and an interview.
A merger was National City’s only hope for survival because
its dismal financial situation prevented it from tapping
Treasury funds, according to a company regulatory filing.
And so it chose to be acquired by PNC, which is now eligible
to receive about $7.7 billion from the Treasury — $4.2
billion of which will be issued once the merger is complete.
Treasury’s actions in the PNC case have continued the
debate in the banking community about the acceptable
use of the rescue money. Since Congress passed the
Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP, at least five financial
institutions that have been approved for capital injections
from Treasury have announced or completed company
takeovers.
FDA: Salix Drugs To Carry Warnings
Salix Pharmaceutical Ltd.’s (SLXP) two bowel-cleansing
drugs, Visicol and OsmoPrep, will carry strong warnings
about a type of acute kidney injury associated with the
products, federal regulators said Thursday.
The two drugs are oral sodium phosphate products commonly
used to cleanse the bowel before a colon examination.
In the case of OsmoPrep, the Food and Drug
Administration said in a press release it has received
reports of 20 unique cases of kidney injury.
It is unclear how many cases were reported with Visicol,
though the agency characterized the incidences of acute
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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
what about the people who got upside down and faces foreclosure. they one who need to get break in rates so they can stay in house. protect the total investment of the house gives up one income off mortgage. you good from non producing asset, to a producing income asset. no write off , no earning drop to cover a write off. you lose a sale get rid of the empty house. you loan say 150, you get 50 for it. you tuck for lose. no dividend earning if you get too many house defaulting and bank could fail
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freddy80 freddy80 15 years ago
the rates will be 4.5% on purchases
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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
may if the interest rate were lower and bank may not make much money but house would come back to bite us.
the price of oil going so high, that people did have enough money left after buying things to buy for the house payment.
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freddy80 freddy80 15 years ago
We just need people to be able to buy homes and make payments on them and that would help a lot!
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loridans loridans 15 years ago
Financials as a sector may need more help---like $1 trillion worth.

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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
market down 400 plus point and our buyer got approve for ton of fed money to buy us.
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freddy80 freddy80 15 years ago
Yeah that is too bad... theres always tomorrow!
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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
if you have notice, the whole market fell apart. talk about a bath, i had bad one today.
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freddy80 freddy80 15 years ago
What is going on with this today? WHY is PNC down so much?
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loridans loridans 15 years ago
Amazing-- I had no idea that NCC was that bad off.
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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
BUT WHY WOULD THEY GO AFTER FRED BAIL OUT MONEY? THEY ALL WANT GOLDEN GET OUT JAIL CARDS WITH GOLD IN NTHERE POCKET AND WHO CARE ABOUT STOCKHOLDER OR IS IT STUCKEE. THAT MY OPINON.
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 15 years ago
National City mulled bankruptcy before PNC deal
Date : 11/10/2008 @ 10:26AM
Source : TFN
Stock : National City Corp (NCC)
Quote : 2.52 0.0 (0.00%) @ 6:07PM


National City mulled bankruptcy before PNC deal




NEW YORK, Nov 10 (Reuters) - Before accepting a takeover offer from PNC
Financial Services Group Inc last month, National City Corp mulled the
possibility that it would need to seek bankruptcy protection "in the very near
future," PNC said in a regulatory filing on Monday.
National City, a U.S. Midwest regional bank, believed it would face
"additional regulatory actions, including intervention by the United States
federal banking regulators, and/or be required to seek protection under
applicable bankruptcy laws" had it not found a merger partner or otherwise been
able to relieve its liquidity strains, according to the filing.
National City, based in Cleveland, agreed to the $5.2 billion takeover
offer on Oct. 24 after concluding that its ability to participate in various
government programs to unlock credit markets and shore up the banking system was
unlikely or uncertain, the filing shows.
Pittsburgh-based PNC obtained $7.7 billion from a $250 billion U.S.
Treasury Department bank capital infusion program to help fund the purchase of
National City. The combined company would be the seventh-largest U.S. bank by
assets, fifth-largest by deposits, and fourth-largest by branches.
(Reporting by Jonathan Stempel; editing by John Wallace) Keywords:
NATIONALCITY/PNC
(jon.stempel@thomsonreuters.com +1 646 223 6317; Reuters Messaging:
jon.stempel.reuters.com@reuters.net)

COPYRIGHT

Copyright Thomson Reuters 2008. All rights reserved.
The copying, republication or redistribution of Reuters News Content, including
by framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written
consent of Thomson Reuters.






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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
not me. there goverment to bail us out.
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Entangled Proton Entangled Proton 15 years ago
That almost sounds like they're trying to push the pps down in order to justify the sale price. Who's going to vote for a sale that's less than the pps ?
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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
UPDATE 1-National City boosts Q3 loss to $2.07 bln




NEW YORK, Nov 6 (Reuters) - National City Corp nearly tripled its reported
third-quarter loss to $2.07 billion on Thursday to reflect a writedown of
goodwill tied to its planned takeover by PNC Financial Services Group Inc.
In a regulatory filing, National City said the net loss excluding a
special dividend was about $2.36 per share, compared with the $729 million loss,
or 85 cents, that the Cleveland-based bank had on Oct 21 reported for the
quarter.
Including the dividend, the net loss per share grew to $7.40 from a
reported $5.86, National City said. The increased loss resulted from a $1.34
billion writedown of the value of its investment banking business.
Pittsburgh-based PNC agreed on Oct 24 to buy National City for about $5.2
billion in stock, using funds from the U.S. Treasury Department's bank bailout
plan.
National City said the agreement prompted it to write off goodwill, given
that the purchase price was below the bank's book value and "approximately
equal" to its market value.
PNC's purchase of National City would create the nation's seventh-largest
bank by assets, fifth-largest by deposits and fourth-largest by branches,
assuming Wells Fargo & Co completes its acquisition of Wachovia Corp. Both
mergers are expected to close this year.
In late afternoon trading, National City shares were down 3 cents at
$2.51, and PNC shares were up 18 cents at $68.52.


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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
that mean the company that buying us aka stealing us stock is selling more that the price in which is price of 2.33 is measure at. as that stock fall, our stock fall, as that stock rise our stock rises.say you bout some at 2 and deal came out at 2.33, you made 33 cent. the other company stock rose up 15 dollars, then deal worth more money, our stock would rise too.
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AKAPAK AKAPAK 15 years ago
someone bought 19,659,438 shares at around $2.70. Roughly $53 million.

With a fixed ratio of .0392 to PNC, they could have gotten a discount to today's PNC price. This can translate into REALLY BIG savings on +19mil shares!

More so, they are probably thinking PNC will go much higher in the long run, especially since PNC got NCC at a steal, IMHO.
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 15 years ago
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=33142417
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sunshinevibrations sunshinevibrations 15 years ago
Not only is the price way up, but between 16:37 and 16:39, someone bought 19,659,438 shares at around $2.70. Roughly $53 million.
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Big D Investor Big D Investor 15 years ago
Question: If the buy out is around $2.33 per share why did we close today at $2.70? Is there someone else looking to pick this up at a more reasonable price?
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SilverSurfer SilverSurfer 15 years ago
hate to work - are you looking to be a daytrader
and use Level 2 ? If so I advise you think about a real job but the key thing you can garner is "By looking for trades that take place in between the bid and ask, you can tell when a strong trend is about to come to an end. This is because these trades are often placed by large traders who take a small loss in order to make sure that they get out of the stock in time."
The change of a trend is the place to buy or sell and get the best price...fwiw hge
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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
love the letter.
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 15 years ago
NCC(2.35)...
US Banking Regulator Balks At Lawmakers' AllegationsLast update:
10/29/2008 7:35:00 AM(This article was originally published Tuesday.) By Michael R. Crittenden Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)--
A top U.S. banking regulator said Tuesday he had no role in steering federal funds to PNC Financial Services Group Inc. (PNC) so that the company could purchase National City Corp. (NCC) Comptroller of the Currency John Dugan, in a letter to Rep. Steven LaTourette, R-Ohio, said allegations that he had somehow favored PNC because the company used to be a client when he was in private practice were unfounded.
"This suggestion is absolutely baseless, and I am astonished that you would make such sweeping allegations without checking the facts," Dugan said in the letter. He was responding to a letter sent by LaTourette to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson on Monday that suggested Dugan used his power as bank regulator to steer $7.7 billion in federal funds to PNC. "I am very concerned that the Comptroller first deprived bailout money to National City Bank and then orchestrated its sale to his former client, PNC," LaTourette said. Dugan, in his letter, noted that he had represented both National City and PNC while a lawyer at Covington and Burling and said past client associations "have had no effect whatsoever on my activities in this or any other matter." "Any actions that I have taken in my current position have been intended to serve the best interests of the national banking system that my agency supervises, and of which both National City and PNC are part," Dugan said.
-By Michael R. Crittenden, Dow Jones Newswires; 202-862-9273; michael.crittenden@dowjones.com

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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 15 years ago
UNITED STATES
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, DC 20549
SCHEDULE 14A

(RULE 14a-101)
INFORMATION REQUIRED IN PROXY STATEMENT
SCHEDULE 14A INFORMATION
Proxy Statement Pursuant to Section 14(a) of the Securities
Exchange Act of 1934
Filed by the Registrant þ
Filed by a Party other than the Registrant o
Check the appropriate box:
o Preliminary Proxy Statement

o Confidential, For Use of the Commission Only (as permitted by Rule 14a- 6(e)(2) )

o Definitive Proxy Statement

o Definitive Additional Materials

þ Soliciting Material Pursuant to Section 240.14a-12

NATIONAL CITY CORPORATION
(Name of Registrant as Specified in Its Charter)
(Name of Person(s) Filing Proxy Statement, if Other Than the Registrant)
Payment of Filing Fee (Check the appropriate box):
þ No fee required.



o Fee computed on table below per Exchange Act Rules 14a-6(i)(1) and 0-11.



(1) Title of each class of securities to which transaction applies:

(2) Aggregate number of securities to which transaction applies:

(3) Per unit price or other underlying value of transaction computed pursuant to Exchange Act Rule 0-11 (set forth the amount on which the filing fee is calculated and state how it was determined):

(4) Proposed maximum aggregate value of transaction:

(5) Total fee paid:

o Fee paid previously with preliminary materials.



o Check box if any part of the fee is offset as provided by Exchange Act Rule 0-11(a)(2) and identify the filing for which the offsetting fee was paid previously. Identify the previous filing by registration statement number, or the Form or Schedule and the date of its filing.



(1) Amount Previously Paid:

(2) Form, Schedule or Registration Statement No.:

(3) Filing Party:

(4) Date Filed:






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On October 24, 2008, National City Corporation and PNC Financial Services Group, Inc. announced that they entered into an Agreement and Plan of Merger. In connection with this announcement, National City Corporation posted the following to its intranet (internal) site.






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Frequently Asked Questions for Customers of National City
1. Why did PNC acquire National City?
• National City’s strong consumer, wealth management and corporate banking businesses nicely complement PNC’s existing franchise.



• The combination of PNC and National City is expected to build a powerful franchise that should help us do even more to create value for customers, employees, shareholders and communities.



2. How will this transaction benefit me?
• The combined PNC-National City network will offer customers convenient access to their money and easier access to financial professionals through a network of offices that extends from the Midwest through the Mid-Atlantic.



• Consumer and business customers will be able to bank at offices in 14 states and access innovative online offerings.



• Soon, customers will learn more about a variety of new banking solutions designed to help them achieve their financial goals through a wider array of products and services.



3. Do I need to take any action now?
• No. PNC and National City customers should continue to work with the same people and at the same locations they have in the past — there will be no immediate changes to customer banking relationships.



• The acquisition is expected to close before the end of the year, subject to receipt of regulatory and shareholder approval and customary closing conditions.



• Soon, any affected customers will receive information about how their accounts will be transitioned to PNC. Until then, National City will continue to operate as a separate bank.



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4. Will the employees I conduct business with and the branches or offices I visit remain part of PNC?
• It depends. PNC and National City have some redundant operations and there is overlap across the two branch systems, so it is likely that some changes will be made after the transaction closes.



• Customers will receive more information in the coming weeks about what they should expect through the integration period. That includes everything they will need to know about the transition of their account(s) to PNC and whether their branch will be impacted.



• Until then, PNC and National City customers should continue to work with the same people and at the same locations they have in the past — there will be no immediate changes to customer banking relationships.



5. What will the combined organization be named? Where will it be headquartered? Who will run it?
• National City will be merged into The PNC Financial Services Group and sometime after the closing all branches will be converted to the PNC Bank brand. PNC will remain headquartered in Pittsburgh.



• PNC’s current chairman and chief executive officer, James E. (Jim) Rohr, will remain in that role. National City Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer Peter Raskind will join PNC as a vice chairman.



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Cautionary Statement Regarding Forward-Looking Statements
This document (including information included or incorporated by reference herein) may contain, among other things, certain forward-looking statements, with respect to each of National City, PNC and the combined company following the Merger, as well as the goals, plans, objectives, intentions, expectations, financial condition, results of operations, future performance and business of National City or PNC, including, without limitation, (i) statements relating to the benefits of the Merger, and (ii) statements preceded by, followed by or that include the words “may”, “could”, “should”, “would”, “believe”, “anticipate”, “estimate”, “expect”, “intend”, “plan”, “projects”, “outlook” or similar expressions. These statements are based upon the current beliefs and expectations of National City’s and/or PNC’s management and are subject to significant risks and uncertainties that are subject to change based on various factors (many of which are beyond National City’s and PNC’s control). Actual results may differ from those set forth in the forward-looking statements.


The following factors, among others, could cause National City’s or PNC’s financial performance to differ materially from that expressed in such forward-looking statements: (1) the risk that the businesses of National City and/or PNC in connection with the Merger will not be integrated successfully or such integration may be more difficult, time-consuming or costly than expected; (2) the risk that expected revenue synergies and cost savings from the Merger may not be fully realized or realized within the expected time frame; (3) the risk that revenues following the Merger may be lower than expected; (4) deposit attrition, operating costs, customer loss and business disruption following the Merger, including, without limitation, difficulties in maintaining relationships with employees, may be greater than expected; (5) the inability to obtain governmental approvals of the Merger on the proposed terms and schedule; (6) the failure of National City’s or PNC’s shareholders to approve the Merger or of PNC’s shareholders to approve the issuance of PNC common stock in the Merger; (7) the risk that the strength of the United States economy in general and the strength of the local economies in which National City and/or PNC conducts operations may be different than expected resulting in, among other things, a deterioration in credit quality or a reduced demand for credit, including the resultant effect on National City’s and/or PNC’s loan portfolio and allowance for loan losses; (8) the effects of, and changes in, trade, monetary and fiscal policies and laws, including interest rate policies of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System; (9) potential or actual litigation; (10) inflation, interest rate, market and monetary fluctuations; (11) adverse conditions in the stock market, the public debt market and other capital markets (including changes in interest rate conditions) and the impact of such conditions on National City’s and/or PNC’s brokerage and capital markets activities; (12) the timely development of competitive new products and services by National City or PNC and the acceptance of these products and services by new and existing customers; (13) the willingness of customers to accept third party products marketed by National City or PNC; (14) the willingness of customers to substitute competitors’ products and services for National City’s or PNC’s products and services and vice versa; (15) the impact of changes in financial services’ laws and regulations (including laws concerning taxes, banking, securities and insurance); (16) technological changes; (17) changes in consumer spending and saving habits; (18) the effect of corporate restructurings, acquisitions and/or dispositions, including, without limitation, the Merger, and the actual restructuring and other expenses related thereto, and the failure to achieve the expected revenue growth and/or expense savings from such corporate restructurings, acquisitions and/or dispositions; (19) the growth and profitability of National City’s and/or PNC’s non-interest or fee income being less than expected; (20) unanticipated regulatory or judicial proceedings or rulings; (21) the impact of changes in accounting principles; (22) adverse changes in financial performance and/or condition of National City’s and/or PNC’s borrowers which could impact repayment of such borrowers’ outstanding loans; (23) the impact on National City and/or PNC’s businesses, as well as on the risks set forth above, of various domestic or international military or terrorist activities or conflicts; and (24) National City’s and/or PNC’s success at managing the risks involved in the foregoing. National City cautions that the foregoing list of factors is not exclusive. All subsequent written and oral forward-looking statements concerning National City, PNC, the Merger, or other matters and attributable to National City or any person acting on its behalf are expressly qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements above. National City does not undertake any obligation to update any forward-looking statement, whether written or oral, relating to the matters discussed in this document.


Additional Information and Where to Find It
The proposed Merger will be submitted to National City’s and PNC’s shareholders for their consideration. PNC will file a registration statement with the SEC, which will include a proxy statement/prospectus, and each of National City and PNC may file other relevant documents concerning the proposed Merger. Shareholders and other investors are urged to read the registration statement and the proxy statement/prospectus when they become available, as well as any other relevant documents concerning the proposed Merger filed with the SEC (and any amendments or supplements to those documents), because they will contain important information. You will be able to obtain a free copy of the registration statement and the proxy statement/prospectus, as well as other filings containing information about National City and PNC, at the SEC’s website ( http://www.sec.gov ) and at the companies’ respective websites, www.nationalcity.com/investorrelations and www.pnc.com/secfilings . Copies of the proxy statement/prospectus and the SEC filings that will be incorporated by reference in the proxy statement/prospectus can also be obtained, free of charge, by directing a request to Jill Hennessey, National City Corporation, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations, Department
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2229, P.O. Box 5756, Cleveland, OH 44101-0756, (800) 622-4204; or to PNC Financial Services Group, Inc, Shareholder Relations at (800) 843-2206 or via e-mail at investor.relations@pnc.com .


National City and PNC and their respective directors and executive officers may be deemed to be participants in the solicitation of proxies from the shareholders of National City in connection with the proposed Merger. Information about the directors and executive officers of National City is set forth in the proxy statement for National City’s 2008 annual meeting of shareholders, as filed with the SEC on a Schedule 14A on March 7, 2008. Information about the directors and executive officers of PNC is set forth in the proxy statement for PNC’s 2008 annual meeting of shareholders, as filed with the SEC on a Schedule 14A on March 28, 2008. Additional information regarding the interests of those participants and other persons who may be deemed participants in the Merger may be obtained by reading the proxy statement/prospectus regarding the proposed Merger when it becomes available. You may obtain free copies of these documents as described in the preceding paragraph.


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Frequently Asked Questions for Employees of National City
1. Why did PNC acquire National City?
• National City’s strong consumer, wealth management and corporate banking businesses nicely complement PNC’s existing franchise. The combination of PNC and National City is expected to create a powerful deposit franchise with significant opportunities to generate revenue growth.



• By applying the strategies and incorporating the policies and procedures that have been successful at both companies the combined organization will have an opportunity to do even more to create value for customers, employees, shareholders and communities.



2. As a National City employee, should I be doing anything different now?
• No, keep doing what you are doing. All employees should remain focused on meeting the needs of the people they serve.



• Soon, employees will learn more about the integration plans and what steps they should take to help make the transition to PNC smooth for everyone.



3. What will happen to my job?
• This transaction is primarily about growth and expansion. However, there are areas of overlap and redundant operations. To create a more efficient combined organization, some positions will be eliminated.



• Leaders from PNC and National City will begin meeting very soon to plan the integration and decide how the combined company will operate. The leaders will share those decisions — and explain the affect on individual employees — as soon as feasible in the process.



4. Who is PNC, I’m not familiar with the name?
• PNC’s franchise dates back more than 150 years. Over time, it has grown to become one of the largest and most respected financial services organizations in the country. Headquartered in Pittsburgh and with 28,000 employees across the U.S.

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Europe, PNC offers a range of products and services to consumer and wealth management clients as well as businesses and corporations of any size.



• PNC works to inspire confidence by making banking easy for its customers and helping them achieve their financial goals. It has an expansive distribution system, including more than 1,100 branches in eight states and the District of Columbia, over 3,800 ATM machines, a 24 by 365 call center, online banking, and most importantly, committed employees.



5. What does “PNC” stand for?
• Well, what the letters mean is not nearly as important as what the company and its employees stand for — creating value for customers, employees, shareholders and communities the company serves.



• As for PNC’s name, in 1982 Pittsburgh National Corporation merged with Provident National Corporation (then located in Philadelphia) in what was at the time the largest U.S. bank merger. Taking the shared initials of the holding companies — PNC — a new company was created, PNC Financial Corp. That merger set the stage for rapid growth.



6. What will the combined organization be named? Where will it be headquartered? Who will run it?
• National City will be merged into The PNC Financial Services Group and sometime after the closing all branches will be converted to the PNC Bank brand. PNC will remain headquartered in Pittsburgh.



• PNC’s current chairman and chief executive officer, James E. (Jim) Rohr, will remain in that role. National City Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer Peter Raskind will join PNC as a vice chairman.



7. How will this transaction benefit customers of National City?
• The combined PNC-National City network will offer customers convenient access to their money and easier access to financial professionals through a network of offices that extends from the Midwest through the Mid-Atlantic. Consumer and business customers will be able to bank at offices in 14 states and access innovative online offerings.



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• Soon, customers will learn more about a variety of new banking solutions designed to help them achieve their financial goals through a wider array of products and services.



8. Should customers take any actions now?
• No. Customers should continue to work with the same people and at the same locations they have in the past — there will be no immediate changes to customer banking relationships.



• The acquisition is expected to close before the end of the year, subject to receipt of regulatory and shareholder approval and customary closing conditions.

Soon, customers will receive information about how their accounts will be transitioned to PNC. Until then, National City will continue to operate as a separate bank.



ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE PNC/NATIONAL CITY CORPORATION TRANSACTION
The PNC Financial Services Group, Inc. and National City Corporation will be filing a joint proxy statement/prospectus and other relevant documents concerning the merger with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (the “SEC”). WE URGE INVESTORS TO READ THE JOINT PROXY STATEMENT/PROSPECTUS AND ANY OTHER DOCUMENTS TO BE FILED WITH THE SEC IN CONNECTION WITH THE MERGER OR INCORPORATED BY REFERENCE IN THE JOINT PROXY STATEMENT/PROSPECTUS BECAUSE THEY WILL CONTAIN IMPORTANT INFORMATION.


Investors will be able to obtain these documents free of charge at the SEC’s Web site (www.sec.gov). In addition, documents filed with the SEC by The PNC Financial Services Group, Inc.

will be available free of charge from Shareholder Relations at (800) 843-2206.


Documents filed with the SEC by National City Corporation will be available free of charge from National City by contacting Investor Relations at (800) 622-4204.


The directors, executive officers, and certain other members of management and employees of National City are participants in the solicitation of proxies in favor of the merger from the shareholders of National City. Information about the directors and executive officers of National City is included in the proxy statement for its 2008 annual meeting of shareholders, which was filed with the SEC on March 7, 2008. Additional information regarding the participants in the proxy solicitation and a description of their direct and indirect interests, by security holdings or otherwise, is contained in the proxy statement for National City’s September 15, 2008 special meeting of shareholders, which was filed with the SEC on August 4, 2008. Additional information regarding the interests of such participants will be included in the joint proxy statement/prospectus and the other relevant documents filed with the SEC when they become available.


The directors, executive officers, and certain other members of management and employees of PNC are participants in the solicitation of proxies in favor of the merger from the shareholders of PNC.

Information about the directors and executive officers of PNC is included in the proxy statement for its 2008 annual meeting of shareholders, which was filed with the SEC on March 28, 2008.

Additional information regarding the interests of such participants will be included in the joint proxy statement/prospectus and the other relevant documents filed with the SEC when they become available.


Cautionary Statement Regarding Forward-Looking Statements
This document (including information included or incorporated by reference herein) may contain, among other things, certain forward-looking statements, with respect to each of National City, PNC and the combined company following the Merger, as well as the goals, plans, objectives, intentions, expectations, financial condition, results of operations, future performance and business of National City or PNC, including, without limitation, (i) statements relating to the benefits of the Merger, and (ii) statements preceded by, followed by or that include the words “may”, “could”, “should”, “would”, “believe”, “anticipate”, “estimate”, “expect”, “intend”, “plan”, “projects”, “outlook” or similar expressions. These statements are based upon the current beliefs and expectations of National City’s and/or PNC’s management and are subject to significant risks and uncertainties that are subject to change based on various factors (many of which are beyond National City’s and PNC’s control). Actual results may differ from those set forth in the forward-looking statements.


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The following factors, among others, could cause National City’s or PNC’s financial performance to differ materially from that expressed in such forward-looking statements: (1) the risk that the businesses of National City and/or PNC in connection with the Merger will not be integrated successfully or such integration may be more difficult, time-consuming or costly than expected; (2) the risk that expected revenue synergies and cost savings from the Merger may not be fully realized or realized within the expected time frame; (3) the risk that revenues following the Merger may be lower than expected; (4) deposit attrition, operating costs, customer loss and business disruption following the Merger, including, without limitation, difficulties in maintaining relationships with employees, may be greater than expected; (5) the inability to obtain governmental approvals of the Merger on the proposed terms and schedule; (6) the failure of National City’s or PNC’s shareholders to approve the Merger or of PNC’s shareholders to approve the issuance of PNC common stock in the Merger; (7) the risk that the strength of the United States economy in general and the strength of the local economies in which National City and/or PNC conducts operations may be different than expected resulting in, among other things, a deterioration in credit quality or a reduced demand for credit, including the resultant effect on National City’s and/or PNC’s loan portfolio and allowance for loan losses; (8) the effects of, and changes in, trade, monetary and fiscal policies and laws, including interest rate policies of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System; (9) potential or actual litigation; (10) inflation, interest rate, market and monetary fluctuations; (11) adverse conditions in the stock market, the public debt market and other capital markets (including changes in interest rate conditions) and the impact of such conditions on National City’s and/or PNC’s brokerage and capital markets activities; (12) the timely development of competitive new products and services by National City or PNC and the acceptance of these products and services by new and existing customers; (13) the willingness of customers to accept third party products marketed by National City or PNC; (14) the willingness of customers to substitute competitors’ products and services for National City’s or PNC’s products and services and vice versa; (15) the impact of changes in financial services’ laws and regulations (including laws concerning taxes, banking, securities and insurance); (16) technological changes; (17) changes in consumer spending and saving habits; (18) the effect of corporate restructurings, acquisitions and/or dispositions, including, without limitation, the Merger, and the actual restructuring and other expenses related thereto, and the failure to achieve the expected revenue growth and/or expense savings from such corporate restructurings, acquisitions and/or dispositions; (19) the growth and profitability of National City’s and/or PNC’s non-interest or fee income being less than expected; (20) unanticipated regulatory or judicial proceedings or rulings; (21) the impact of changes in accounting principles; (22) adverse changes in financial performance and/or condition of National City’s and/or PNC’s borrowers which could impact repayment of such borrowers’ outstanding loans; (23) the impact on National City and/or PNC’s businesses, as well as on the risks set forth above, of various domestic or international military or terrorist activities or conflicts; and (24) National City’s and/or PNC’s success at managing the risks involved in the foregoing. National City cautions that the foregoing list of factors is not exclusive. All subsequent written and oral forward-looking statements concerning National City, PNC, the Merger, or other matters and attributable to National City or any person acting on its behalf are expressly qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements above. National City does not undertake any obligation to update any forward-looking statement, whether written or oral, relating to the matters discussed in this document.


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October 24, 2008



To: All Employees
From: Peter Raskind
Re: PNC to Acquire National City





As you know, National City has always strived to serve the best interests of our shareholders, employees, customers and communities. Through your heroic efforts, we have done precisely that, taking difficult actions that have maintained stability amidst the backdrop of one of the most tumultuous periods in the history of the financial markets.


While we have made tremendous progress, our Board of Directors has determined that this stability could erode with ongoing market volatility and the probability that we would not be able to fully participate in the various government market stabilization plans.


As a result, to protect and enhance the value of our franchise, our Board has reached an agreement to merge with Pittsburgh-based PNC Financial Services Group (NYSE: PNC), creating a powerful combination through which we will confidently progress beyond these challenging times with a renewed focus on serving our customers. Further information regarding the transaction is available in the joint press release.


PNC is one of the nation’s largest diversified financial services organizations providing retail and business banking; specialized services for corporations and government entities, including corporate banking, real estate finance and asset-based lending; wealth management; asset management and global fund services.

PNC fact sheets provide more details about the company.


Together, our organizations will form one of the nation’s largest financial services companies, with $180 in deposits. We will rank as the fifth-largest bank nationally in deposits and among the top five U.S. banks in assets and number of branches. Our retail banking footprint will span 13 states and the District of Columbia, with nearly 2,500 branch locations and more than 6,000 ATMs, in a complementary footprint.


Further, PNC and National City share common cultures and values — both grounded in a dedication to serving our shareholders, customers, employees and communities. Your commitment has never been more apparent than during this past year, as you have risen to the occasion and carried us through this difficult period.


Our combination with PNC will enable us build on the fundamental strengths of our great franchise and serve our customers as part of a larger, stronger and more secure enterprise.


Throughout this extraordinary period, we have continued to invest in our core retail, corporate and wealth management businesses, which continue to deliver strong results. We have every confidence that PNC will build on the strong foundation and reputation that we have earned throughout our 163-year history.


Jim Rohr, the chairman and chief executive officer of PNC, is a renowned and admired leader for whom I have great personal respect and the utmost confidence.


Undoubtedly, today’s announcement will raise many questions and concerns — about the potential impacts on each of us personally and our teams, and about the many opportunities for professional growth that this combination may offer.


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and anxiety that may bring as change is inevitable in any business combination. As always, we are committed to communicating with you in a direct, transparent and timely fashion.


What we do know today is that there will be no immediate change to our operations or our management team, and no impact on our customers or our ability to serve them and their financial needs.


As you learn more about our new partners, I am confident you will share in the excitement about our future and the tremendous opportunities ahead.


Together, we will build on the great strengths of our respective organizations.

While these recent months have been at times extraordinarily difficult, I could not be more proud of the loyalty and commitment you have consistently demonstrated to our shareholders, customers, communities, and to each other.


As always, thank you for your continued hard work, dedication and commitment.



This communication is the property of National City. It is for internal use only and is intended only for the addressee. Any unauthorized use, including external distribution, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender, delete the message, and note that any distribution or copying of this message is prohibited.


Cautionary Statement Regarding Forward-Looking Statements
This document (including information included or incorporated by reference herein) may contain, among other things, certain forward-looking statements, with respect to each of National City, PNC and the combined company following the Merger, as well as the goals, plans, objectives, intentions, expectations, financial condition, results of operations, future performance and business of National City or PNC, including, without limitation, (i) statements relating to the benefits of the Merger, and (ii) statements preceded by, followed by or that include the words “may”, “could”, “should”, “would”, “believe”, “anticipate”, “estimate”, “expect”, “intend”, “plan”, “projects”, “outlook” or similar expressions. These statements are based upon the current beliefs and expectations of National City’s and/or PNC’s management and are subject to significant risks and uncertainties that are subject to change based on various factors (many of which are beyond National City’s and PNC’s control). Actual results may differ from those set forth in the forward-looking statements.


The following factors, among others, could cause National City’s or PNC’s financial performance to differ materially from that expressed in such forward-looking statements: (1) the risk that the businesses of National City and/or PNC in connection with the Merger will not be integrated successfully or such integration may be more difficult, time-consuming or costly than expected; (2) the risk that expected revenue synergies and cost savings from the Merger may not be fully realized or realized within the expected time frame; (3) the risk that revenues following the Merger may be lower than expected; (4) deposit attrition, operating costs, customer loss and business disruption following the Merger, including, without limitation, difficulties in maintaining relationships with employees, may be greater than expected; (5) the inability to obtain governmental approvals of the Merger on the proposed terms and schedule; (6) the failure of National City’s or PNC’s shareholders to approve the Merger or of PNC’s shareholders to approve the issuance of PNC common stock in the Merger; (7) the risk that the strength of the United States economy in general and the strength of the local economies in which National City and/or PNC conducts operations may be different than expected resulting in, among other things, a deterioration in credit quality or a reduced demand for credit, including the resultant effect on National City’s and/or PNC’s loan portfolio and allowance for loan losses; (8) the effects of, and changes in, trade, monetary and fiscal policies and laws, including interest rate policies of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System; (9) potential or actual litigation; (10) inflation, interest rate, market and monetary fluctuations; (11) adverse conditions in the stock market, the public debt market and other capital markets (including changes in interest rate conditions) and the impact of such conditions on National City’s and/or PNC’s brokerage and capital markets activities; (12) the timely development of competitive new products and services by National City or PNC and the acceptance of these products and services by new and existing customers; (13) the willingness of customers to accept third party products marketed by National City or PNC; (14) the willingness of customers to substitute competitors’ products and services for National City’s or PNC’s products and services and vice versa; (15) the impact of changes in financial services’ laws and regulations (including laws concerning taxes, banking, securities and insurance); (16) technological changes; (17) changes in consumer spending and saving habits; (18) the effect of corporate




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restructurings, acquisitions and/or dispositions, including, without limitation, the Merger, and the actual restructuring and other expenses related thereto, and the failure to achieve the expected revenue growth and/or expense savings from such corporate restructurings, acquisitions and/or dispositions; (19) the growth and profitability of National City’s and/or PNC’s non-interest or fee income being less than expected; (20) unanticipated regulatory or judicial proceedings or rulings; (21) the impact of changes in accounting principles; (22) adverse changes in financial performance and/or condition of National City’s and/or PNC’s borrowers which could impact repayment of such borrowers’ outstanding loans; (23) the impact on National City and/or PNC’s businesses, as well as on the risks set forth above, of various domestic or international military o r terrorist activities or conflicts; and (24) National City’s and/or PNC’s success at managing the risks involved in the foregoing. National City cautions that the foregoing list of factors is not exclusive. All subsequent written and oral forward-looking statements concerning National City, PNC, the Merger, or other matters and attributable to National City or any person acting on its behalf are expressly qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements above.

National City does not undertake any obligation to update any forward-looking statement, whether written or oral, relating to the matters discussed in this document.


Additional Information and Where to Find It
The proposed Merger will be submitted to National City’s and PNC’s shareholders for their consideration. PNC will file a registration statement with the SEC, which will include a proxy statement/prospectus, and each of National City and PNC may file other relevant documents concerning the proposed Merger. Shareholders and other investors are urged to read the registration statement and the proxy statement/prospectus when they become available, as well as any other relevant documents concerning the proposed Merger filed with the SEC (and any amendments or supplements to those documents), because they will contain important information. You will be able to obtain a free copy of the registration statement and the proxy statement/prospectus, as well as other filings containing information about National City and PNC, at the SEC’s website ( http://www.sec.gov ) and at the companies’ respective websites, www.nationalcity.com/investorrelations and www.pnc.com/secfilings . Copies of the proxy statement/prospectus and the SEC filings that will be incorporated by reference in the proxy statement/prospectus can also be obtained, free of charge, by directing a request to Jill Hennessey, National City Corporation, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations, Department 2229, P.O. Box 5756, Cleveland, OH 44101-0756, (800) 622-4204; or to PNC Financial Services Group, Inc, Shareholder Relations at (800) 843-2206 or via e-mail at investor.relations@pnc.com .


National City and PNC and their respective directors and executive officers may be deemed to be participants in the solicitation of proxies from the shareholders of National City in connection with the proposed Merger. Information about the directors and executive officers of National City is set forth in the proxy statement for National City’s 2008 annual meeting of shareholders, as filed with the SEC on a Schedule 14A on March 7, 2008. Information about the directors and executive officers of PNC is set forth in the proxy statement for PNC’s 2008 annual meeting of shareholders, as filed with the SEC on a Schedule 14A on March 28, 2008. Additional information regarding the interests of those participants and other persons who may be deemed participants in the Merger may be obtained by reading the proxy statement/prospectus regarding the proposed Merger when it becomes available. You may obtain free copies of these documents as described in the preceding paragraph.






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October 24, 2008
Everyone at PNC is excited about the plans to join with National City.


By establishing deep and lasting customer relationships, National City has built a number of successful businesses and developed a great team of employees. Your strengths — particularly in retail banking, commercial banking and wealth management — and impressive distribution network nicely complement those of PNC. Even more important, we share a culture that emphasizes exceptional customer service and devotion to the community.


Over the next several months, representatives of PNC will work closely with a team from National City to plan for our future. The combination of PNC and National City will create a powerful deposit franchise with significant opportunities to generate revenue growth. By applying PNC’s business model, risk management system and technology platform on this larger scale — and incorporating appropriate policies and processes that have been successful at National City — we can do even more to create value for the customers, employees, shareholders and communities served by both companies.


We are excited about the opportunity we have to build on our combined strengths and create one of the nation’s leading financial services companies.


Sincerely,

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE PNC/NATIONAL CITY CORPORATION TRANSACTION
The PNC Financial Services Group, Inc. and National City Corporation will be filing a joint proxy statement/prospectus and other relevant documents concerning the merger with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (the “SEC”). WE URGE INVESTORS TO READ THE JOINT PROXY STATEMENT/PROSPECTUS AND ANY OTHER DOCUMENTS TO BE FILED WITH THE SEC IN CONNECTION WITH THE MERGER OR INCORPORATED BY REFERENCE IN THE JOINT PROXY STATEMENT/PROSPECTUS BECAUSE THEY WILL CONTAIN IMPORTANT INFORMATION.


Investors will be able to obtain these documents free of charge at the SEC’s Web site (www.sec.gov). In addition, documents filed with the SEC by The PNC Financial Services Group, Inc.

will be available free of charge from Shareholder Relations at (800) 843-2206. Documents filed with the SEC by National City Corporation will be available free of charge from National City by contacting Investor Relations at (800) 622-4204.


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solicitation of proxies in favor of the merger from the shareholders of National City. Information about the directors and executive officers of National City is included in the proxy statement for its 2008 annual meeting of shareholders, which was filed with the SEC on March 7, 2008. Additional information regarding the participants in the proxy solicitation and a description of their direct and indirect interests, by security holdings or otherwise, is contained in the proxy statement for National City’s September 15, 2008 special meeting of shareholders, which was filed with the SEC on August 4, 2008. Additional information regarding the interests of such participants will be included in the joint proxy statement/prospectus and the other relevant documents filed with the SEC when they become available.


The directors, executive officers, and certain other members of management and employees of PNC are participants in the solicitation of proxies in favor of the merger from the shareholders of PNC.

Information about the directors and executive officers of PNC is included in the proxy statement for its 2008 annual meeting of shareholders, which was filed with the SEC on March 28, 2008.

Additional information regarding the interests of such participants will be included in the joint proxy statement/prospectus and the other relevant documents filed with the SEC when they become available.






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Entangled Proton Entangled Proton 15 years ago
It looks like the shareholders once again use the market place to sat NO to a buy out deal.
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 15 years ago
timeline. from ny times.

Friday, Oct. 10:
National City was wrapping up its weeks-long auction process. The results didn't look promising. Banks including U.S. Bancorp had withdrawn from the bidding. Heading into the weekend, PNC was the only party still at the table and CEO Jim Rohr seemed skeptical.

Sunday, Oct. 12:
PNC officially pulled out of auction.

Sunday, Oct. 12:
That evening, National City CEO Peter Raskind convened a meeting of the bank's board. He said the auction had ended and National City had no choice but to go it alone. The board was supportive, viewing the company's franchise as strong and undervalued based on its beaten down stock price.

Monday, Oct. 13:
U.S. government officials unveiled plans to inject $250 billion in capital into banks nationwide. National City executives were cheered, figuring they would be eligible to participate and that it would help stabilize the bank.

Tuesday, Oct. 14:
Mr. Raskind called National City's primary regulator, OCC Chief John Dugan, and requests a meeting to discuss selling assets to the government under TARP. "I'm happy to do that, but first I want you to explore all M&A avenues," Mr. Dugan said. When Mr. Raskind informed Mr. Dugan that National City had already done that, Mr. Dugan cryptically replied: "Just keep doing it. Trust me." Minutes later, as Mr. Raskind was heading into a board meeting to brief his directors on the unusual phone call, his phone rang. It was U.S. Bancorp CEO Richard Davis. Mr. Raskind didn't take the call, saying he'd return Mr. Davis's call later.

Wednesday, Oct. 15:
In a phone call, Mr. Davis informed Mr. Raskind that U.S. Bancorp, after talking with the OCC and other federal regulators, had regained interest in a deal with National City. Regulators had assured Mr. Davis that the government would provide U.S. Bancorp with capital to finance a takeover. The company's initial offer: about $1.10 a share. That was less than half of where National City's shares were trading.

Thursday, Oct. 16:
Talks between National City and U.S. Bancorp progressed. Mr. Dugan remained a constant presence, and his tone became increasingly assertive. "An M&A deal is your only alternative," he told Mr. Raskind on more than one occasion.

National City and its many advisers -- including investment bankers at Goldman Sachs and lawyers from Sullivan & Cromwell, Jones Day and Cravath Swaine & Moore – started calling a number of other banks, including PNC, that previously had expressed interest in buying National City.

Friday, Oct. 17:
Mr. Raskind got on the phone with PNC's Mr. Rohr and asked if he was interested. When Mr. Rohr demurred, Mr. Raskind pointed out that government capital apparently was available for bidders, based on U.S. Bancorp's bid. Mr. Rohr seemed to gain interest during that phone call, but was noncommittal.

Mr. Dugan warned National City not to expect to take advantage of any of the new government programs meant to stabilize the industry – the capital infusions, asset sales, or debt guarantees. "That's all discretionary, and right now you shouldn't be comfortable that that's available to you at all," Mr. Dugan said. Mr. Raskind was floored. "I thought that it was available to all banks," he asked, referring to the debt-guarantee program. "No, it's all discretionary," Mr. Dugan said.

That evening, National City's board held an executive session. The directors felt that the OCC was bullying them, but their advisers pointed out that they didn't have a choice: The regulators were in charge. It was "very sobering," said someone who attended.

Sunday, Oct. 19:
Mr. Dugan sent a carefully worded email to National City's angry directors, saying he couldn't assure them that the company would have access to any of the government programs.

Monday, Oct. 20:
Talks continue with U.S. Bancorp. National City persuaded U.S. Bancorp to boost its offer to about $1.30 a share. Under Mr. Dugan's supervision, the two banks started hashing out a merger agreement.

Wednesday, Oct. 22:
That evening, Mr. Raskind got a surprise phone call from PNC's Mr. Rohr. "We might be interested" in submitting a bid, the PNC executive said.

Thursday, Oct. 23:
Around 11 a.m., Mr. Rohr called to say an offer, for more than $2 a share, would be forthcoming, pending authorization by PNC's board. The board met around 4 p.m. and gave the deal its blessing. Mr. Rohr told Mr. Raskind that PNC was willing to pay about $2.25 a share. Starting around 8 p.m., Messrs. Rohr and Raskind sat down together in a Cleveland hotel room and agreed on a deal within the hour. At 9:30 p.m., National City held a board meeting and approved PNC's offer.

Friday, Oct. 24:
National City announces deal to sell itself to PNC. The U.S. government shelves plans for an 11 a.m. announcement of 22 banks that would receive capital.

—David Enrich, Dan Fitzpatrick, Damian Paletta, Deborah Solomon, Peter Lattman and Robin Sidel


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cook cook 15 years ago
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/the-home-front/2008/10/28/latourettes-letter-to-paulson-on-pnc-nat-city.html
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dragon man dragon man 15 years ago
they stole ncc from us. deal of the century
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Entangled Proton Entangled Proton 15 years ago
I'm still with you guys. I'm just not too happy with the way things have gone. Every time the gov gets involved it seems people are getting hurt. They don't seem to have any respect for the share holder. We have one of the highest unemployment rates in this country and this deal means the loss of thousands of jobs.

I bought low/sold high and should be happy with that, But I just can't understand this unjust beating we're getting from our government.
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cook cook 15 years ago
need to read http://latourette.house.gov/
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 15 years ago
hmmmmmmmmmmm........

http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/10/latourette_fears_government_of.html
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 15 years ago
i agree. pnc is a fine company and so is ncc. together they should be outstanding. for a long term investment in the financial industry, it should be good. perhaps treasury secretay paulson's idea was to create a large national bank as opposed to the large multi-nationals like c. who knows.
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h82work h82work 15 years ago
thx for the detailed explantion.
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 15 years ago
yup. imo ncc was strongarmed by morons in washington who will most likely be out of a job in 3 months. look who did get tarp money. no one can tell me that ncc was not just as eligible.

Oct 27 (Reuters) - Sixteen U.S. banks have signed up for the
government's offer of a cash injection, in addition to the nine
that joined the program initially. The injections are a bid to
revive the sector, which has suffered since lending has dried up
and many loans have gone bad. The U.S. Treasury Department plans to provide funds for 20
to 22 lenders in the current round of a $250 billion bank
recapitalization program. Nine of the largest U.S. banks, including JPMorgan Chase &
Co (JPM.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) and Citigroup (C.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), received the first $125 billion
of capital infusions two weeks ago. A list of the additional 16 banks that have announced they
will use the government funds follows: PNC Financial Services Group Inc (PNC.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) $7.7 billion Capital One Financial Corp (COF.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) $3.55 billion Regions Financial Corp (RF.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) $3.5 billion SunTrust Banks Inc (STI.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) $3.5 billion BB&T Corp (BBT.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) $3.1 billion KeyCorp (KEY.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) $2.5 billion Comerica (CMA.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) $2.25 billion State Street Corp (STT.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) $2.0 billion Northern Trust Corp (NTRS.O: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) $1.5 billion Huntington Bancshares (HBAN.O: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) $1.4 billion First Horizon National Corp (FHN.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) $866 million City National Corp (CYN.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) $395 million Valley National Bancorp (VLY.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) $330 million UCBH Holdings Inc (UCBH.O: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) $298 million Washington Federal (WFSL.O: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) $200 million First Niagara Financial Group (FNFG.O: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) $186 million NOTE: Fifth Third Bancorp (FITB.O: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) said on Sunday it
expected to receive Treasury approval for $3.4 billion. West
Bancorp (WTBA.O: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) said on Friday it was seeking shareholder
approval to raise between $12 million and $36 million under the
Treasury program. Provident Bankshares Corp (PBKS.O: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), the parent of
Baltimore-based Provident Bank, said on Monday it has been
informed that it has been granted preliminary approval by the
Treasury to participate in its program. Also on Monday, the Bank
of Commerce Holdings of Redding, California, said it was looking
at obtaining from $5.9 million to $17 million from the
Treasury.
(Reporting by Elinor Comlay; editing by John Wallace and Susan
Kelly)



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jdsgungho jdsgungho 15 years ago
basically it comes down to, do you want to be a pnc shareholder? pretty solid company and they pay a nice dividend as well. imo your becoming a shareholder of a much stronger company(JMHO)
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RDG013 RDG013 15 years ago
More thoughts of a bad deal being forced on the shareholders!

http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1225147250&article=28960322&symbol=NY%5EPNC
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 15 years ago
chilar and h82. i really don't know. i am more of an investor than i am a trader. i thought the price was fixed at 2.23 but apparently what was fixed was the ratio. here is a link which may explain it best.

http://messages.yahoo.com/Business_&_Finance/Investments/Stocks_(A_to_Z)/Stocks_N/threadview?m=tm&bn=12389&tid=87800&mid=87808&tof=13&off=1

Yes it can go up. The law of one price prevents arbitrage opportunities. So if PNC goes up so does NCC. Likewise if PNC goes down NCC will too.

The deal is a fixed ratio 0.0392 shares PNC for every NCC owned. The $2.23 mentioned just refers to what the ratio amounted to in dollars on Thursdays closing price.

If PNC goes up to $60 then the buyout price for NCC is technically $2.35. If PNC is $80 then the NCC price is $3.13. and if PNC falls to $40 NCC is $1.56. NCC Shareholders are getting shares of PNC not $2.23 cash, so NCCs share price is kinda irrelevent unless you want to sell prior to the conversion of NCC shares to PNC shares.

For those holding longer than that it is obviously PNCs share price that matters
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h82work h82work 15 years ago
i agree, because it would make no sense. that being said, what point is here to hang on to this stock? it doesnt seem worth the risk of it going further down and we all seem to know that it wont go past $2.32... am i missing something?
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